Thanks for the encouragement anyway! It's great to be on this biking forum since sometimes it's hard to find so many bikey people locally. We've decided on just an overnight to begin with, pretty close by-30 miles or so. I guess the best thing is that my kiddos are very tolerant and familiar with biking. I do have to sometimes remind myself-kids in carseats cry, too. Sadly, everyone else can't hear them....