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    Six Small Meals a Day, 250 cals each

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    I'm trying to understand this so I can really implement it successfully, post gall bladder removal, per doctors' instructions.

    Six small meals a day on a 1,500-calorie-per-day plan is 250 calories per meal.

    I'm limited to 30% fat per day. I don't mind going lower, but that's the standard ADA form.

    I'm supposed to avoid high fat foods, fried foods, foods with strong odors (because they may make me nauseous), and foods that cause gas. The dietitian said no raw veggies for the next couple or three weeks.

    So he gives me a Gallbladder Nutrition Therapy print out with a plan for three meals plus one snack, and all the meals include wheat bread with margarine. The dinner is 3 oz. of lean roast beef.

    It reminds me of those commercials for weight loss programs that show all the mac and cheese and chocolate cake you can eat.

    So, friends, help me come up with a real six small meals plan that works. Anyone actually eating this frequently? What's your day look like?

    Anyone know how to cream tofu in a blender to use in soups and sauces in lieu of cheese or milk?

    Got any favorite quinoa recipes?

    Thanks!
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    I have no idea what 250 calories look like. But I do eat at least 6 times a day, so I can give you a hint of what that looks like:
    breakfast, 7 o'clock: orange juice, coffee, any supplements, two slices of dark multigrain bread usually with cheese
    morning snack, 9.30: green tea, couple of rye/oat crackers
    lunch, 11: large salad, heavy on beans, peas, eggs, no cheese, vinaigrette dressing, followed by tea and a piece of dark chocolate
    afternoon, about 3 pm: coffee and a slice of two of bread with maybe peanut butter
    think-about-dinner snack: couple of handfuls of unsalted nuts, maybe a banana
    dinner about 6.30 pm: often wok-fried vegetables and chicken over rice
    evening: peppermint tea, sometimes a cookie if we have any

    This sounds like I eat all the time, but this is actually everything I eat, I don't graze in addition on anything. Sorry I can't help on the calories.

    We don't use milk in recipes because of my dh's allergy, but there are plenty of clear soups and sauces that taste great. If I'm desperate I'll add soy cream, but it's not the same. I make stews with a sauce made from meat stock, olive oil, red wine, soy sauce, pureed tomato, balsamic vinegar, a bit of this, a dash of that...
    Bread with every meal would make me wired.
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    My husband makes great soups that are low fat and low calorie. For example:

    Boil maybe a quart of water. Throw in some quinoa. Or mung daal or other quick cooking bean. Just a couple of ounces. If you want the carbs, put in some rice or pasta. Again, just a small amount. If you use brown rice you would cook that ahead of time as the daal and quinoa cooks fast, maybe 15 minutes. My spouse uses a bit of salt. I use a bit of chicken bouillon. Throw in some raisins.

    Boil this up.

    Add cubes of winter squash. Be generous! Cook for a bit. Add in quicker cooking veggies, like asparagus or greens. Or tomatoes. Or whatever vegetables you have on hand. I favor chard or asparagus.

    Put in some roasted pumpkin seeds, if you can handle them. Don't roast in fat. My husband just tosses a few into a hot iron pan and stirs them until they get a bit brown and some make kind of a popping noise.

    Put in your favorite curry mix to taste. My husband does take a small amount of ghee and heats the spices up in the ghee before adding to the soup. The amount is very small so it doesn't really make the soup fatty. The smell of precooking the spices in ghee may bother you so I'd skip that part. If I make the soup I am lazy and I just dump in his premade curry mix of one type or another. Sometimes we add a little hot sauce.

    From start to finish it takes only 15 to 20 minutes.
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    Silken tofu has the smoothest texture after blending.

    I prefer extra firm tofu for quiches and burgers, for its lower water content.

    Any kind will work in a bisque that you take a stick blender to. If you wanted to make cream of potato soup with tofu, it's best to blend the tofu separately, since too much blending makes potatoes gummy.

    That's all I've got. I'm glad you're recovered enough to be thinking about this stuff, anyway ... good luck.
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    Anyone know how to cream tofu in a blender to use in soups and sauces in lieu of cheese or milk?
    Here's a savory tofu sauce recipe that makes cooked vegetables divine. It's good with meat too. Some of the ingredients, like almond oil, are pricey at first, but once you have them they keep and you can use them for a lot of this stuff.

    1/2 cup almond oil, soy oil or sunflower oil ****if this is too much oil, start small and add as needed.
    1 cup water
    1/4 cup Bragg Liquid Aminos **this stuff is pretty salty. I think it provides a lot of the taste, but if sodium is an issue, go light on it and add more if you need it.**
    1/8 cup brewer's yeast flakes
    1/4 tsp kelp powder
    1/4 tsp Spike seasoning **ditto on the salt, but this is pretty small.
    1/4 tsp basil
    1/8 tsp granulated garlic ***I put *$&@#loads of garlic in everything. A few cloves makes this good. A lot of cloves makes it better. Might be a good partial substitute for some of the salty stuff.
    1 1/2 tsp. lemon juice
    1 1/2 tsp Tamari sauce / tamari soy sauce
    1 pkg firm tofu (16 oz), rinsed well

    Blend the above ingredients until smooth and creamy. Makes about 2 cups.
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    Another good meal is hot and sour soup. Rather than pork use lean chicken. Some of the recipes seem overly fancy. The key ingredients are chicken stock, vinegar, a pinch of sugar, a little soy sauce, a bit of hot sauce, like a red chile paste, chicken, firm tofu, dried mushroom, and egg. Thicken with corn starch or tapioca. Tapioca is nice and clear. I like to add bean spouts at the very end. You do not need to add the fat that a lot of the recipes ask for.

    The nice thing about this soup is that it keeps well so you can eat a bowl and then a few hours later, eat another bowl.
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    Another good low fat food is steamed fish, like halibut. Top the fish with fresh ginger and a bit of soy sauce. Maybe some onions, garlic and mushrooms if you can handle them. Steam for maybe 15 minutes.
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    I'm confused. Why did he give you a printout for 3 meals plus one snack if you are supposed to eat 6 times per day rather than 4?

    Also, I think it might help to forget the word "meal" with its connotations of multiple things on one plate. For 250 calories, you're probably looking at 1-2 things per eating occasion.

    Can you have oatmeal? I think a packet of instant oatmeal is < 200 calories; not sure about the non-instant kind. Maybe add some dried fruit for texture and taste.

    I know the greek yogurt I've been buying lately is 130-150 calories per serving.

    Certain cereals with skim milk or soy milk might be an option.

    Maybe cheese and whole-grain crackers if the cheese is low-fat enough.

    For a hot "meal," maybe a lean protein, like a small portion of fish, chicken or turkey, with a vegetable on the side.

    I googled "gall bladder diet" and a bunch of links came up, so you might get more ideas that way. One link from mayoclinic.com was only general guidelines but it seemed more useful that the info you've got.

    http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/gal...l-diet/MY01815

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    Quote Originally Posted by goldfinch View Post
    Another good low fat food is steamed fish, like halibut. Top the fish with fresh ginger and a bit of soy sauce. Maybe some onions, garlic and mushrooms if you can handle them. Steam for maybe 15 minutes.
    I would skip the onions, garlic and mushrooms...

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    Ooops, you can ignore my question about your diet in your other thread. I see you've addressed it here!
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    Also, consider that perhaps one meal could be 400 calories and another just 150, like a soy yogurt or similar.

    Instead of cooking with oil, I use a bit of white wine. You could sub lemon juice. I toss in my cooked quinoa and then spinach or tomato or squash or whatever is lying around.

    I hope you start feeling better very soon!
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    Quote Originally Posted by szsz View Post
    Also, consider that perhaps one meal could be 400 calories and another just 150, like a soy yogurt or similar.
    The same idea came to mind. Also, the idea of dividing portions (ie, plan for 3 meals, but split them into two servings each). I suspect the idea is not to to eat much in any meal.

    Can you have olive oil? The thought of margarine on perfectly good bread does not sound good to me...

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    You ladies are brilliant.

    Lph, that's exactly the kind of thing I was looking for. How you mix it up, keep it easy, all day, every day.

    nybiker, I was wondering the same thing, especially when it includes instructions to eat margarine, for crying out loud. Who eats margarine anymore? And "avoid high fat foods" but beef is the dinner entree.

    I've been so confused by all the conflicting - directly conflicting - instructions from this doctor and that doctor and that dietitian...I've literally wept from the confusion because they're putting it all on me to create my own eating plan.

    Goldfinch, your quinoa recipe sounds good. Tangent, your almond oil sauce sounds good, too, but I don't think I can eat that kind of fat for a couple of months.

    Szsz and pll, I was thinking the same thing - mixing up the caloric allocations a bit. That's a good idea.

    Oakleaf, thanks for answering my question about tofu. Do you blend it first and get it creamy and then heat it up? I'm not going to be cooking white potatoes. I was thinking of cream of broccoli, or butternut squash, or tomato, or making a creamy spinach and onion soup with tofu. I have no idea how to cook tofu, though. I've never done it successfully.

    I have two packages in my refrigerator right now, but I've been in here so long I don't know if they're still good.

    I'd love to hear some more tofu recipes. I'm thinking I'd like to get away from eating so much meat.

    I love the idea of cooking something that keeps so I can eat it several days in a row, just heat up a little bowl when needed.

    I feel like I have the opportunity to reset my whole diet, but I may be overreaching. I really want to try some new stuff, though, and you ladies have some of the richest, most varied, healthiest diets of anyone I know.

    And you'd never suggest I eat margarine. Geez.



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    Oh my god, Murienn, you just saved my life with that Clean Eating Magazine link. Thank you!
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    Roxy-

    I've never had tofu go bad sealed in the package. And I've eaten it way out of date.

    This sounds good as a start for a tofu "cream" soup. If I'm using it like that, I just heat it - I don't really "cook" it....

    PS - Glad you're starting to be on the mend
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