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    Hey, guys? I know this is a personal subject to a lot of you. But she spelled out that her intent was not to judge the people, just the clothes. And if you're new to pretty much any activity, the clothes are usually the most visually obvious aspect of that activity that you have to adjust to. Personally, I think football uniforms look pretty weird and unflattering. But the uniforms are functional, and I bet if I played football, I'd eventually come to see them as normal. And obviously some people find them attractive.

    I think we can maybe lay off her a bit? She was being honest, something TE generally encourages. And for people who don't like to be judged, we sure seem to be judging her.

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    Good grief, I didn't get the impression that anyone was judging, just adding helpful angles.
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    Heh, at least cycling clothes are better than wrestling uniforms. At least I think so. Not to offend any wrestlers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by redrhodie View Post
    heh, at least cycling clothes are better than wrestling uniforms. At least i think so. Not to offend any wrestlers.
    lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by jessmarimba View Post
    Hey, guys? I know this is a personal subject to a lot of you. But she spelled out that her intent was not to judge the people, just the clothes. And if you're new to pretty much any activity, the clothes are usually the most visually obvious aspect of that activity that you have to adjust to. Personally, I think football uniforms look pretty weird and unflattering. But the uniforms are functional, and I bet if I played football, I'd eventually come to see them as normal. And obviously some people find them attractive.

    I think we can maybe lay off her a bit? She was being honest, something TE generally encourages. And for people who don't like to be judged, we sure seem to be judging her.
    Thanks Jessmarimba, for your defense, but I'm not taking the rage personally. I've seen people on this forum get deeply offended over several things. Sometimes I think that people specifically haunt these types of places just looking for something to get bent out of shape about. Recently I was referred to a discussion on another forum about whether tattoos look professional in certain career fields. You wouldn't believe how many people attacked people with opposing viewpoints. So what if someone disagrees with you? Most of us should be at a point where we can deal with an exchange of ideas. Unfortunately, all too often emotion fuels the exchanges. In the case of this issue, there is our society's obsession with weight, which I wasn't thinking about when I made the post. I rarely think about it, myself having been a wide range of weights and pants sizes over the years, as most people have. I made an observation about clothing, that's all. It wasn't intended to be an insult to anyone's figure.

    I'm sorry if people are offended by the fact that I feel that cycling clothing is not flattering to humans. That has nothing to do with the heart or soul or brain of the people wearing the clothes. It is a simple opinion of how I process a visual image. I don't like it, and had no idea that stating that I don't like it would lead to such scandal. I've probably made hundreds of fashion mistakes over the last few decades, very few with the functionality of form fitting shorts with protective padded crotches and jerseys with useful pockets. I GET the look. I don't find it aesthetically pleasing, Yet I wear it myself because it is useful. Don't take it so personally.
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    I really don't see the rage that others are seeing. I see this as a totally normal and civil thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by redrhodie View Post
    I really don't see the rage that others are seeing. I see this as a totally normal and civil thread.
    Not rage. But everyone who considers themselves to be even slightly less-than-perfect in bike gear seemed to take offense to the original comment and the commentor, and it was quickly becoming a defensive thread about how no one should care how people look or judge others for what they choose to wear. Which is true. BUT, the original thread was just about the style of bike clothes, not about the people who wear them. And I don't think it's unusual for someone new to cycling to find bike clothing to be funny-looking. No need to judge Jen for thinking bike clothes look funny, no need to judge anyone for how they look in any clothes.

    Just looking out for Jen, who is obviously newer to cycling, and I would like her to feel welcome here despite a post that was apparently taken in an unintended manner.

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    Well, I'm not that new to cycling anymore and I STILL think the outfits are not a good look. Sure, functional, but I personally think that it is not flattering on any body type. My husband is a very fit, 6' 180 lb man who looks great in just about anything he wears but I think he looks ridiculous in spandex. And me? OMG my BUTT IS PADDED. How is that attractive!? I never wear cycling clothes anywhere but ON the bike, I think they look so silly. And this has nothing to do with body image, weight, or size.... the spandex with padded butt is just not a good look to me.
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    Speaking for myself and no one else, it wasn't the OP that I found offensive.

    But whatev'.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OakLeaf View Post
    Speaking for myself and no one else, it wasn't the OP that I found offensive.

    But whatev'.
    I agree. And I truly apologize if anyone was offended by what I wrote or thought that I was being judgmental. I was just trying to offer my own perspective - which I freely admit is my issue. I ride, I will keep riding. And for the most part, I won't care what others think. Maybe the comments got me at a bad time - some of the ones that bugged me I *know* were not intended to be offensive.
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