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  1. #1
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    Also, hey, anyone have any ideas about what it means if the gears start skipping down when you pedal backwards? It only happens sometimes, but something got screwed up when the fenders were installed. I'm leaving town for a week though, so I won't even be able to take it in to the bike shop for a while....

    Oh, also they switched the shifters. It used to be the left side that shifted the rear derailleur, now it's the right. They didn't tell me they had changed it. JFC.

    I really, seriously regret ever getting a bike from this place. Did I mention that when I went to get the fenders installed, he said half an hour. I get back 1.5 hours later, still not done. Another 20 minutes. I come back an hour later. Still not done. 3.5 hours total. He didn't realize the type of fender he ordered was the harder type to install. They don't even know what they're ordering. I wasn't going to complain about that, but with the screwed up derailleur(?) it's just too much.

    Regreeeeeeeeeets

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    Quote Originally Posted by Antaresia View Post
    Also, hey, anyone have any ideas about what it means if the gears start skipping down when you pedal backwards? It only happens sometimes, but something got screwed up when the fenders were installed. I'm leaving town for a week though, so I won't even be able to take it in to the bike shop for a while....

    Oh, also they switched the shifters. It used to be the left side that shifted the rear derailleur, now it's the right. They didn't tell me they had changed it. JFC.


    Regreeeeeeeeeets
    THIS is too much. Bad scheduling is something that always happens. But switching the shifters???
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    Quote Originally Posted by Antaresia View Post
    Oh, also they switched the shifters. It used to be the left side that shifted the rear derailleur, now it's the right. They didn't tell me they had changed it.
    Are you sure about this? The standard configuration is for the left hand to control the chain ring (front) derailleur, and for the right hand to control the rear derailleur. All 5 of my bikes are set up this way. I would be very surprised to see any bike set up differently but I suppose anybody can make a mistake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Antaresia View Post
    Also, hey, anyone have any ideas about what it means if the gears start skipping down when you pedal backwards? It only happens sometimes, but something got screwed up when the fenders were installed.
    The rear wheel might be installed crooked - with the wheel pointing to the left.

    When you pedal backwards, there is nothing to guide the chain onto the cassette cogs. (The rear derailleur only works in the forward direction.) Now assume you are cross chained in the big to big gear combination. The chain is forced through an extreme angle. Now increase the angle even further because of a crooked wheel. At this point the chain might not track backwards onto the current cog. Instead it will skip down.

    There's a simple two part solution: 1 ) Don't cross chain, i.e. don't use the big to big and small to small gear combinations. 2 ) Loosen the quick release for the rear wheel. The wheel should have enough freedom of movement for you to center the tire between both sets of frame stays - both by the cranks, and also by your brakes. Once the wheel is centered, tighten the quick release without letting the wheel move.

    Quote Originally Posted by withm View Post
    The standard configuration is for the left hand to control the chain ring (front) derailleur, and for the right hand to control the rear derailleur. ... I would be very surprised to see any bike set up differently but I suppose anybody can make a mistake.
    Maybe that's why it took so long to "install the fenders". The mechanic may have noticed their error and fixed it (switched the brifters*) without saying anything.

    * If the left hand was controlling the rear derailleur, then the brifters must have been installed switched. Had the error been a cable misconnection, then the shifting wouldn't have worked properly. Of course, with switched brifters, the shift paddles would have been operating backwards.
    Last edited by laura*; 09-19-2011 at 04:19 PM. Reason: Added reply to Antaresia

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    Quote Originally Posted by withm View Post
    Are you sure about this?
    100% positive. I never shift the front ring unless I reeeealy need too, so I pay attention. Left was rear for sure.

    And I needed to shift the front ring today. Guess what? Also borked. Which isn't fun to find out when there are cars behind you in a round about and you're just a spinnin' without any traction and something is clunking down there and oh god why isn't it just catching on like it's supposed too ffffffffuuuuuuuu.

    When I look at the rear while pedaling backwards, the chain is actually hitting the side of the part that hangs down (lowest cog?) and it shifts down gears really fast. I wish I knew more about bikes, but I never had any problems like this with CCM. I feel like the BARE minimum attention has been given to this build, which is not really what I expect for around $2000 CAD. I am calling him tomorrow and asking how much of a refund I can get; this is just way to ridiculous.

    I'll also add, I hear that the guy runs the shops is supposed to be awesome with bikes, but I know for a fact all work done on mine was done by other people; whatever mechanics he has hired. Maybe they're new or something.

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    maybe you need to talk to the manager!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Biciclista View Post
    maybe you need to talk to the manager!
    Really! You have had one of the oddest bike buying experiences I have ever heard about. I can't believe that you were able to shift before with your brifters backwards!

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    pedaling backwards:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssEeSq-vCl0

    Mmmmmm sounds like a $2000 bike to me.
    Sorry it's so shaky, the bike was hard to hold. And while you can't really see what's going on, you sure can see it isn't right.

    I dug up some reviews. I'm going to hold off posting my own until everything is done and over with.

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    Last edited by Antaresia; 09-19-2011 at 08:08 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Antaresia View Post
    pedaling backwards:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssEeSq-vCl0

    Mmmmmm sounds like a $2000 bike to me.


    Well, this video is enough to diagnose a problem! The bolt/nut attaching the fender to the frame next to the gears is too long/thick. It is hitting your smallest gear!

    A pro mechanic should not have this problem.

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    Beautiful bikes! Thx for sharing.

 

 

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