I'm becoming the anti-WSD rider...

[tulip]

Whatever fits. It doesn't matter what it's called.

[zoom-zoom]

Whatever fits. It doesn't matter what it's called.

Precisely...though it's amusing to me that the WSD so frequently doesn't fit me.

[Owlie]

Who cares how it's labeled, so long as it works for you?

I'm exactly the opposite. I need a WSD frame, provided it's properly WSD and not just a re-painted version of the unisex frame with a very slightly shorter top tube. (Cannondale and Giant, I'm looking in your direction!) I can handle a unisex frame if it has a sufficiently short top tube (Trek H3 Madone, maybe.)
Saddles...provided it's T-shaped with a cutout and wider than 140mm, who cares? I may eventually order that particular saddle if a Jett/Ruby doesn't work on my hypothetical Ruby.

I'm with you on the clothes...my waist:hip is sufficiently small that men's jerseys ride up or are way too big.

[Kathi]

I remember the days when there were no cycling products for women. I almost quit cycling because nothing fit. I rode a 17" mixte frame because I was too short for the triangular frames of the time. I was in heaven when I found Koulius Zaard, one of the 1st women's line of cycling clothing. It fit and it meant no more riding in T-Shirts and shorts.

My first small bike was a Cannondale Compact. Smaller frame, 650c wheels, 165 crankarms. The bike was not marketed to women just small riders. Trek coined the term WSD.

When carbon frames came on the scene I asked a Trek rep why Trek didn't make a women's carbon frame, unisex had been around for several years. The rep told me there was "no market for women's carbon frames".

In those early years I drove my bike shop crazy looking for products designed for women always searching for a better fit.

Nowadays, many of those women's products don't work for me either. However, I know which brands do work for me and support those companies.
Unfortunately, I don't have options in the men's dept. either.