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  1. #1
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    Some very good reasons have been mentioned. If someone chooses flat bars after trying both, great. On the other hand I know people who just automatically assume drop bars are uncomfortable based on their childhood experience 10, 20, 30 years ago or on seeing racers and thinking their riding position looked like a lot of work. They have decided they'll never use drop bars, which is too bad since they might like them if they gave them a try. I know I was skeptical when I started looking at road bikes two years ago, but the drop bars on my Ruby are angled so that I have a good view of the road when on the hoods and are very comfortable. I love being able to change positions on longer rides. I also ride a commuter bike with flat bars and like that just fine around town. Whatever works, just hope folks choose based on test rides not assumptions!

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    As of today I can comment on this thread, I am away at a conference and rented a bike for an early morning ride before the sessions got started. Thanks to the LGRAB Summer Contest I was motivated to try out another style of bike. I rode a flat bar road bike today. Woo hoo!

    I can understand the allure of riding a road bike after my ride today. Not quite my style yet, perhaps some day in the future They are agile and fast and it seemed like it could roll forever.

    I had a drop bar 10 speed bike as a teen and young adult and honestly can't remember it being uncomfortable but I do like a more upright position now for many reasons mentioned here, namely arthritis and wrist pain. Perhaps another test ride some day will be with drop bars to see the difference. In the mean time, the answer to the question of why someone would use a flat bar sounds like it's twofold. Physical reasons and perceptions.
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  3. #3
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZenBiker View Post
    Some very good reasons have been mentioned. If someone chooses flat bars after trying both, great. On the other hand I know people who just automatically assume drop bars are uncomfortable based on their childhood experience 10, 20, 30 years ago or on seeing racers and thinking their riding position looked like a lot of work. They have decided they'll never use drop bars, which is too bad since they might like them if they gave them a try. I know I was skeptical when I started looking at road bikes two years ago, but the drop bars on my Ruby are angled so that I have a good view of the road when on the hoods and are very comfortable. I love being able to change positions on longer rides. I also ride a commuter bike with flat bars and like that just fine around town. Whatever works, just hope folks choose based on test rides not assumptions!
    I often suspect that the flat bars are based upon often wrongful assumptions, as well. And my experience with flat bars on a mountain bike was painful. I ended up with bar ends to have some variety in hand position, but it was still not comfortable. That factored in heavily for my own disinterest in cycling for years. I love my drop bars and spend almost no time with my hands on the tops...mostly in the hoods or in the drops.
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    Is it necessarily true that FB's are more upright? I took a look at Trek, Specialized and Jamis's offerings and, based on the elements of geometry I looked at (HT and TT lengths; HTA and STA) and didn't get the impression that the cockpits of the FB bikes were smaller than those of at least some of their road bikes. Maybe I wasn't looking at the right elements of geometry or otherwise left something out of the equation. It just made me wonder if FB and DB bikes are all as different as one might assume.
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    I am not upright on my Coda. I am just as low as on my Luna. Probably more because the top tube/stem on my Coda is longer than on the Luna. Too long, but I'm too cheap to replace the stem. The Luna is perfect, however. My wrists prefer the Luna, especially for long rides.

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    Shifting and braking.

    To be honest because of my short fingered hands I find shifters hard to use. I can barely get my fingers on the lever to brake. I have extra interupt levers on my drop bars and use them instead. Other people have hand problems will find mountain bike tigger shifters and brake levers are easier for them to use.

    Also I never go into the drops so why bother with drop handlebars? I am actually going to put bull horns and remount my shifters to underneath the ends (I have seen this done on another bike). This should solve my issues regarding my finger reach for braking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by indysteel View Post
    Is it necessarily true that FB's are more upright? I took a look at Trek, Specialized and Jamis's offerings and, based on the elements of geometry I looked at (HT and TT lengths; HTA and STA) and didn't get the impression that the cockpits of the FB bikes were smaller than those of at least some of their road bikes. Maybe I wasn't looking at the right elements of geometry or otherwise left something out of the equation. It just made me wonder if FB and DB bikes are all as different as one might assume.
    I suspect if you compare the stack heights and stem angles there will be enough difference to see why the handlebar heights are different. Then there are also those flat bars that also have a bit of up-sweep to them. Part of how I got my SUB drop bars a bit higher was a bit more length where the quill stem is inserted into the head tube and it has a up angle versus the road bike's stem is horizontal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by radacrider View Post
    I suspect if you compare the stack heights and stem angles there will be enough difference to see why the handlebar heights are different. Then there are also those flat bars that also have a bit of up-sweep to them. Part of how I got my SUB drop bars a bit higher was a bit more length where the quill stem is inserted into the head tube and it has a up angle versus the road bike's stem is horizontal.
    Maybe....although my Trek FX didn't have a lot of stack, nor did it come with riser bars. Plus, a lot of road bikes today come stock with riser stems and, if they don't, it's any easy swap. In looking at the photos of both the Trek FX and the Specialized Sirrus, they don't appear to have a lot of stack. The Jamis Code has a bit more.

    I don't doubt that some FB road bikes on the market (and just to be clear that I'm not talking about bikes that fall more squarely under the heading of "hybrid") probably do offer a more upright position than your average road bike. Moreover, there are certainly any number of road bikes on the market with more aggressive racing geometry. But I suspect that many FB bikes aren't as different in terms of geometry as some riders assume.
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    I'm new to road cycling and drops just seem... intimidating. There's something more professional and serious about them, whereas most people are comfortable with flats because it's what you had as a kid.

    That being said, now that I'm getting a bit more serious and the rides are longer, my hands do suffer. My flat bar road bike has bar ends but if I upgrade at some point, I think I would like drops. My bike has road compact geometry and I'm comfotable but I'm more upright than I would be in drops. For me, going right into a road bike with drops would have been a bit overwhelming... I didn't want to deal with the different geometry, gearing, getting into shape, drops, etc all at once. Maybe some day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by indysteel View Post
    Maybe....although my Trek FX didn't have a lot of stack, nor did it come with riser bars. Plus, a lot of road bikes today come stock with riser stems and, if they don't, it's any easy swap. In looking at the photos of both the Trek FX and the Specialized Sirrus, they don't appear to have a lot of stack. The Jamis Code has a bit more.

    I don't doubt that some FB road bikes on the market (and just to be clear that I'm not talking about bikes that fall more squarely under the heading of "hybrid") probably do offer a more upright position than your average road bike. Moreover, there are certainly any number of road bikes on the market with more aggressive racing geometry. But I suspect that many FB bikes aren't as different in terms of geometry as some riders assume.
    Agree. I think marketing and such has a lot to do with it. I see a lot of newer road type commuters with the drop bar tops above the seat, so you can have a more upright position and drop bars.

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    One of the best things about my flatbars is the Brooks leather ring grips!
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