time to get out of the gene pool!

[PamNY]

I Googled "jogging derogatory" and found some funny stuff. Two samples here; there's a lot more, mostly predictable discussion board nonsense. The gist seems to be that running is faster, hence the hurt feelings, I suppose. Also, jogging might be a dated term.

http://www.coolrunning.com/forums/Fo...L/024355.shtml

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jogging

[tulip]

I had no idea that "jogging" is a derogatory term. Just to be on the safe side, I'll pick up on Eden's post and use "ambulate." Or "ambulate quickly."

[PamNY]

I had no idea that "jogging" is a derogatory term. Just to be on the safe side, I'll pick up on Eden's post and use "ambulate." Or "ambulate quickly."

I love it. I'm going to do that too.

[zoom-zoom]

I had no idea that "jogging" is a derogatory term. Just to be on the safe side, I'll pick up on Eden's post and use "ambulate." Or "ambulate quickly."

Heh...when I think ambulate I think zombies...not that there's anything wrong with that. I like to think I'd do OK during a zombie apocalypse. I may not be fast, but I have endurance on-foot and a cyclocross bike.

[SadieKate]

Oh for goodness sake. This is like the argument about "what is a REAL cyclist?"

Does Usain Bolt think Karl Meltzer is a jogger?

[salsabike]

Oh for goodness sake. This is like the argument about "what is a REAL cyclist?"

Exactly what I was thinking. It also goes on in the fine craft world: is fine craft art? What's craft? What's art? Whenever I see those articles in the magazines I get, my eyes glaze over and I start looking at all the pictures...

[SadieKate]

What is porn?

[OakLeaf]

Oh for goodness sake. This is like the argument about "what is a REAL cyclist?"

Does Usain Bolt think Karl Melter is a jogger?

The verb has somewhat to do with subjective speed. Usain Bolt could jog alongside me while I'm in an all-out sprint (heck, he could probably walk beside me ). That wouldn't mean I would be jogging.

The noun is just plain derogatory. It implies the person doesn't belong on the road. Which was pretty much the point of the OP...

I mean, seriously, I am about as insulated from advertising as an American can be, yet I was saturated with that "We Are Not Joggers" ad campaign. It was everywhere. Did you all miss it????


Anyway, this is exactly why I prefaced my request with the reminder that I'd been called out for using the word "cager."

[Eden]

Regional thing?? I've never heard of jog/jogger being an insult either.....

[Owlie]

I certainly missed the memo that "jogger" was derogatory. But then, I don't run/jog/ambulate quickly unless I'm being chased.

[Bike Writer]

[QUOTE=OakLeaf;592100]

I mean, seriously, I am about as insulated from advertising as an American can be, yet I was saturated with that "We Are Not Joggers" ad campaign. It was everywhere. Did you all miss it????
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She raises her hand and admits - I missed it! But I have also been accused of living under a rock now and again for years at a time, what can I say, I just get out of touch?

[zoom-zoom]

The verb has somewhat to do with subjective speed. Usain Bolt could jog alongside me while I'm in an all-out sprint (heck, he could probably walk beside me ). That wouldn't mean I would be jogging.

The noun is just plain derogatory. It implies the person doesn't belong on the road. Which was pretty much the point of the OP...

"Jogger" reminds me of the venomous way non-cyclists refer to "bikers" who they believe don't belong on the road. It's interesting the way pure cyclists and pure runners can (perhaps unknowingly) hold such a double-standard when it comes to the other. As someone who engages in both activities I see it from both "sides" and it makes me rather uncomfortable.

[SadieKate]

Oakleaf, I wasn't calling you out at all. I just find the whole jogger/runner discussion as funny as the "real" cyclist discussion, and craft/art, and blogger/writer. And, yes, I jog/shuffle/run, but I don't do it with a giant sign telling people I also cycle so don't they dare call me [fill in the blank].

I think the OP made it very clear that she didn't know that anyone perambulating by any term was allowed to be in the road and did not use it in a derogatory manner, just as it seems the majority of us do not see it as a derogatory term.

I think this splitting of hairs is why so many women don't see themselves as athletes. It's all in the cultural verbiage and pressure to have 0% body fat, or pinch less than an inch, rather than just getting your butt off the sofa and DOING.

[PamNY]

The noun is just plain derogatory. It implies the person doesn't belong on the road. Which was pretty much the point of the OP...

I mean, seriously, I am about as insulated from advertising as an American can be, yet I was saturated with that "We Are Not Joggers" ad campaign. It was everywhere. Did you all miss it????

I don't think the OP would have been any happier about hard-to-see "runners" in the road.

"Jogger" is just a word. It doesn't imply anything about where the activity should take place, whether you call it running, jogging or ambulating (which I am now eager to work into a sentence).

I totally missed that ad campaign. What was it for and what media?

[SadieKate]

Back from asking The Google to tell me about "We are not joggers." Apparently it was a Pearl Izumi ad campaign from 2007 or 8, and it looks like it failed pretty miserably because it was divisive and intimidating. It did absolutely nothing to motivate those who needed the most motivation to get off the sofa.