Crashing this could get expensive.

[KnottedYet]

Are people really so terrorized by the concept of shifting that we must invent all this gobbledygook just to shift a bike?

I fear for humanity's future. We are turning into custard.

Don't mind me, I'll be out back with Jobst Brandt, being a curmudgeon...

[Catrin]

hmmmm, what happens if you get distracted?

(picturing where my mind can go on the bike)

On a related note, I am always amused at how many people I meet who seem to be surprised when they find out my car has a manual transmission - by choice

[Possegal]

On a related note, I am always amused at how many people I meet who seem to be surprised when they find out my car has a manual transmission - by choice

Me too! And they are now all shocked because I'm upset that the car I've had for 9 yrs and would like to replace with the same car, no longer comes as a manual. I don't want an automatic, and I don't want to go one level down in the car. Why do car makers think that if we want the nice seats and moonroof and entertainment options, we can't possibly also want a stick.

[pll]

Me too! And they are now all shocked because I'm upset that the car I've had for 9 yrs and would like to replace with the same car, no longer comes as a manual. I don't want an automatic, and I don't want to go one level down in the car. Why do car makers think that if we want the nice seats and moonroof and entertainment options, we can't possibly also want a stick.

Another one with manual transmission by choice here! I also consider it an anti-theft device. Even more perplexing to people than the manual transmission is the fact that I don't have automatic locks and windows. It's all manual, baby. Also, people are in disbelief when I tell them it costs less (~$1000 less) than the same model with automatic transmission.

[Catrin]

Sales manager at my dealer told me the manuals are the slowest to leave his lot, it was just a coincidence they had one in the model and color I wanted. They simply would have had to get one for me from another dealership if they hadn't...

I agree it is an anti-theft device - and is also easier on the brakes and gas mileage. The one time I have regretted a manual was after my foot surgery...I couldn't drive for a LONG time

[KnottedYet]

I think those of us who drive stick-shifts should get discounts on our insurance.

We know the inertia of our cars. Intimately.

We can disengage the engine at a moment's notice. (no runaway Toyotas for us!)

We can downshift if our brakes fail or fade.

We simply cannot talk on the phone or text while driving.

If we park on a hill, in gear, the car won't roll away even if the parking brake poops out.

[Owlie]

Well, thanks for saying that all of us that drive automatics are inconsiderate drivers or stupid or something.

Honestly, there are lots of times on here where I feel I'm getting attacked. I know it's the internet and therefore nothing personal, but still.

[luv2climb]

Another one with manual transmission by choice here! I also consider it an anti-theft device. Even more perplexing to people than the manual transmission is the fact that I don't have automatic locks and windows. It's all manual, baby.

Same here! When I was at the dealer and saw the truck with manual transmission, manual windows, no carpet to dirty up (rubber floors), and vinyl seats, I knew that was the truck for me. Less crap to break, easier to keep clean, and I just prefer manual shifting. I guess that comes from riding bikes all my life.

Speaking of bikes with dumbed-down shifting systems, anyone remember the Autobike? They used to have those late-night infomercials for that thing years ago. I actually saw one at the LBS where I took my recumbent to sell on consignment.

[pll]

Oh, rubber floors! I wish my car had that. Why do we need carpet in cars, actually?

[luv2climb]

Oh, rubber floors! I wish my car had that. Why do we need carpet in cars, actually?

+1! I can't think of any good reason for it. I wish we didn't have to have it in apartments either. At least when you're a homeowner you can rip that bacteria sponge crap out, but when you rent, it seems like every landlord is infatuated with putting that beige crap in that shows every stain. Linoleum, tile, or laminate would pay for itself in the long run because it wouldn't get trashed as easily and it's much easier to keep clean. Once something liquid soaks into carpet, you're not getting it all up. Same with dirt. I've removed plenty of carpet and seen tons of dirt on the floor underneath. Yuck!

Also, all that dust and dirt can't be good for allergy sufferers. Luckily I don't have allergies.

That's actually a myth now, probably it was true in the early days of automatic transmissions. Nowadays manuals are much more likely to fail.

Anyway I don't think it will be long before all cars have CVT. It's so much better for fuel economy, not to mention smoother.

That's good to know. Actually I was referring to the manual windows when I said "less crap to break".

What's CVT? I'm guessing "constant velocity transmission". I've never heard of CVT.

[OakLeaf]

Less crap to break

That's actually a myth now, probably it was true in the early days of automatic transmissions. Nowadays manuals are much more likely to fail.

I do kind of pride myself - the last stick-shift car I owned, I was younger, it was a sporty car, I bought it used and the prior owner I think probably wasn't any easier on the tranny than I was - but I drove it for another 15,000 miles after the second gear syncro went out. DH (whom I met in that period of time) never could drive the thing without grinding the gears. "Honey, you've just got to feel the engine and shift when the car tells you it's okay."


Anyway I don't think it will be long before all cars have CVT. It's so much better for fuel economy, not to mention smoother.

[VeganBikeChick]

Add me to the manual transmission group. Although I had manual VWs and now I have my first manual Subaru. I have to say the VW's shifted a lot nicer and engaged a lot quicker, but I still love my new car .

[Blueberry]

This is why I have a VW. Nice creature comforts - and a manual transmission

[buffybike]

Me too! And they are now all shocked because I'm upset that the car I've had for 9 yrs and would like to replace with the same car, no longer comes as a manual. I don't want an automatic, and I don't want to go one level down in the car. Why do car makers think that if we want the nice seats and moonroof and entertainment options, we can't possibly also want a stick.

Haha! I drive a minivan with "manual" doors. When i pull into the car pickup lane at my daughter's school, the volunteers just stand there waiting for me to press the little button that opens the door. I have to roll down my window every time and say, "you have to OPEN IT. With your ARM.". Then i try to look apologetic for making them work so hard.

[Owlie]

Are people really so terrorized by the concept of shifting that we must invent all this gobbledygook just to shift a bike?

I fear for humanity's future. We are turning into custard.

While I think it's cool that they can make it work, I agree. It's not that hard.