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    On the first 90+ degree day, the guys I ride with wanted to have a 25+ mile hill day, starting at 5:30pm. This was a VERY BIG mistake - I hadn't been riding regularly enough, and certainly hadn't acclimated to the heat yeat. The next day, I was tired and had heart palps.

    Heat always knocks several miles off me for the first few weeks. I add Nunn tablets to my water - sometimes in both bottles. I also organize rides for 7-7:30am. You do adjust, sometimes it takes a while. Glad you didn't try to push through. Dizzy/chills is a big warning sign to stop, rest in the shade and drink, drink, drink.

    I also carry a bandanna with me - when it gets hot, I soak that bugger and put it on my head under my helmet. It helps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by grey View Post
    Heat always knocks several miles off me for the first few weeks. I add Nunn tablets to my water - sometimes in both bottles.
    Yep. I had a bottle of Powerade, a bottle with a Nuun tablet, 5 Endurolytes capsules, and ~80oz of fluids during that miserable ride. I ended covered in salt residue and soaked. I think the humidity was just as responsible for my symptoms as the heat. My sweat wasn't evaporating well at all.
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    Dr. Gabe Mirkin's e-zine this week contained a very interesting article about the need for salt during hot-weather rides. I am going to start taking more salty snacks along this time of year as I am sure I am not getting enough on the long, really hot rides where I come home dripping wet.

    This week's issue is not yet posted on his site (that I could see) - should be soon. I'm copying it below:
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    Dr. Gabe Mirkin's Fitness and Health E-Zine
    June 12, 2011

    Why You Need Salt During Prolonged Exercise in Hot Weather

    The only mineral that you need to make extra effort
    to take during prolonged exercise is sodium. The amount of
    salt people need varies greatly from person to person. If you
    exercise regularly for more than an hour, particularly in hot
    weather, you probably need extra salt.
    YOU DO NOT NEED EXTRA POTASSIUM, MAGNESIUM OR
    CALCIUM: Healthy athletes and exercisers do not need to take
    potassium, magnesium, calcium or any other minerals (1).
    Athletes do lose minerals through increased sweating, but
    compared to blood, sweat is very dilute in minerals, so they
    can get all the minerals they need from food. A deficiency of
    potassium, magnesium, or calcium has not been reported in
    healthy athletes who eat a normal diet.
    SODIUM: The definitive studies on minerals and
    exercise were done during World War II. Dr. James Gamble of
    Harvard Medical School paid Harvard medical students to lie on
    a raft or exercise in his swimming pool, take various amounts
    of fluids and salt, and have blood drawn to measure salt and
    mineral levels. He showed that salt requirements increase
    significantly when you exercise for several hours in hot
    weather. I was fortunate enough to be among the doctors
    training at Harvard Medical School who heard Dr. Gamble give
    his lectures on minerals and exercise. Now, more than sixty
    years later, nobody has improved on his research.
    YOU NEED EXTRA SALT IN YOUR FOOD WHEN YOU EXERCISE IN
    HOT WEATHER: If you don't take salt and fluids during
    extended exercise in hot weather, you will tire earlier and
    increase your risk for heat stroke, dehydration and cramps.
    Not taking in salt when you exercise for more than two
    hours can prevent you from retaining the water that you drink.
    It can also block thirst, so you may not know that you are
    dehydrated. Thirst is a late sign of dehydration. You lose
    water during exercise primarily through sweating, and sweat
    contains a far lower concentration of salt than blood. So
    during exercise, you lose far more water than salt, causing
    the concentration of salt in the blood to rise. You will not
    feel thirsty until the concentration of salt in the blood
    rises high enough to trip off thirst osmoreceptors in your
    brain, and it takes a loss of two to four pints of fluid to do
    that (2).
    YOU NEED SALT TO RETAIN THE FLUID YOU DRINK WHILE
    EXERCISING. In one study, female competitive distance runners
    took in drinks with different concentrations of salt during a
    four-hour run (3). Ninety-two percent of those who took in
    plain water with no additional salt developed low blood levels
    of salt.
    Taking in fluid without also taking in adequate
    amounts of salt dilutes the bloodstream, so that the
    concentration of salt in the blood is lower than that in brain
    cells. This causes fluid to move from the low-salt blood into
    the high-salt brain, causing the brain to swell, which can
    cause seizures and death. However, hyponatremia, the low salt
    syndrome that can kill athletes, is usually caused by taking
    in far too much fluid, rather than from not taking in enough
    salt.
    HOW SALT CAN IMPROVE PERFORMANCE IN COMPETITION:
    Taking extra salt just prior to competition can help you
    exercise longer and harder (4). Fatigue during hot-weather
    exercise is caused by lack of water, salt, sugar or calories.
    Of the four, exercisers are most ignorant of their sodium
    needs.
    SALT AFTER EXERCISING IN THE HEAT: You should always
    replace fluids, salt, sugar, and protein after you exercise in
    hot weather. (5). Just salting your food to taste should
    replace the salt you lose through heavy sweating (6). If your
    kidneys are normal, you should be able to rid yourself of any
    excess salt that you may take in.
    CAN YOU HARM YOUR HEALTH BY CAUSING SALT DEFICIENCY?
    If you are not replacing salt that you lose from sweat, you
    will suffer fatigue, muscle cramps and injuries that can
    prevent you from continuing to exercise. Severe salt
    deficiency can cause high blood pressure and metabolic
    syndrome. While moderate salt restriction can lower high blood
    pressure, severe salt restriction can raise blood pressure.
    When you don't get enough salt, your adrenal glands put out
    large amounts of aldosterone that constricts arteries and
    raises blood pressure, and your kidneys put out extra renin
    that also constricts arteries and raises blood pressure (7).
    SEVERE SALT RESTRICTION CAN RAISE BLOOD SUGAR AND
    INSULIN LEVELS: A study from Columbia University Medical
    School showed that salt restriction raises blood sugar and
    insulin levels, while adding salt lowers them (8).
    SALT YOUR FOOD, NOT YOUR DRINK: Salty drinks taste
    awful, so it is easier to meet your needs with salted foods.
    If you plan to exercise for more than a couple hours in hot
    weather, drink one or two cups of the liquid of your choice
    each hour and eat a salty food such as salted peanuts, potato
    chips, or anything else that tastes salty.
    HOW CAN YOU TELL THAT YOU NEED MORE SALT? Salt
    deficiency causes tiredness, lethargy and cramps. It also
    weakens muscles, causing you to slow down and lose strength.
    If you suffer any of these symptoms, you can get a blood test
    for sodium and chloride on the day after a hard workout. Low
    blood levels of sodium are most likely to occur on the morning
    after you have replaced fluid lost from heavy exercise. If
    your blood sodium level is below 130, you are deficient and
    need to add more salt to your food.
    WHO IS MOST LIKELY TO SUFFER FROM SALT DEFICIENCY?
    Vegetarians and people who limit meat are at increased risk
    for salt deficiency because plants are naturally low in salt.
    Meat, fish and chicken naturally contain far more salt. Most
    processed foods are high in salt because manufacturers know
    that salt makes food taste good and is also a preservative.
    WHY DON'T CASUAL EXERCISERS SUFFER FROM SALT
    DEFICIENCY? The North American diet typically contains up to
    10 times the minimal daily salt requirement. If you doubled
    or tripled your salt loses through sweating, you may still not
    be deficient because you probably take in far more salt than
    you need.
    DOES EXTRA SALT CAUSE HIGH BLOOD PRESSURE AND HEART
    ATTACKS? A review of the world's literature shows that salt
    restriction does not lower high blood pressure for most people
    with high blood pressure (9). Eating salty foods and drinks
    when you exercise for more than two hours is unlikely to raise
    blood pressure. I found only six long-term follow-up studies
    of salt intake and heart attacks. Three studies suggest that
    very low salt intake may cause heart attacks.
    EXERCISE CAN PREVENT A RISE IN BLOOD PRESSURE WITH
    EXTRA SALT INTAKE: Excessive intake of salt causes high blood
    pressure in some, but not all, people. High blood pressure
    increases risk for heart attacks, strokes, and kidney damage.
    Many middle-aged people who start an exercise program lose
    their tendency to develop high blood pressure when they take
    in extra salt (10). This study shows that many people who
    develop high blood pressure from a high-salt diet when they
    are sedentary, will not develop high blood pressure on the
    same diet when they exercise.
    PEOPLE WITH METABOLIC SYNDROME ARE THE ONES MOST
    LIKELY TO DEVELOP HIGH BLOOD PRESSURE FROM EXCESS SALT INTAKE:
    A high-salt diet causes high blood pressure most commonly in
    people who suffer from metabolic syndrome and are pre-diabetic
    or diabetic (11). Metabolic syndrome occurs when cells lose
    their ability to respond adequately to insulin and blood
    levels of sugar rise too high. It is caused by eating too much
    sugar and other refined carbohydrates, being overweight, not
    exercising, and lacking vitamin D. Metabolic syndrome is
    characterized by storing fat primarily in the belly, having a
    thick neck, high blood triglycerides, low blood good HDL
    cholesterol, high blood sugar, and eventually liver damage and
    all the side effects of diabetes. People with metabolic
    syndrome have a greater rise in blood pressure with increased
    salt intake and a drop in blood pressure with salt
    restriction.
    BUY A BLOOD PRESSURE CUFF: If you are concerned about
    your blood pressure, you can buy an inexpensive wrist cuff and
    check your systolic blood pressure at bedtime. If it is below
    120, you probably do not need to worry about salt. If it is
    above 120, and particularly if you store fat primarily in your
    belly rather than your hips, your good HDL cholesterollis below 40,
    your triglycerides are above 175, or you have a blood sugar above
    100 two hours after a meal or an HBA1C above 5.9, you probably
    should restrict salt and definitely should work to correct the
    causes of metabolic syndrome:
    *lack of exercise,
    *overweight,
    *eating too much red meat,
    *taking sugared drinks and foods,
    *lack of vitamin D, and
    *not eating enough fruits and vegetables.
    SUMMARY: If you do not exercise, you do not sweat
    very much and you do not need very much salt. Too much salt
    can increase blood volume which raises systolic blood
    pressure. Being fat is the primary cause of elevated diastolic
    blood pressure. On the other hand, if you exercise
    vigorously, you sweat tremendously and lose a lot of salt.
    Without the extra salt that you need, you will not recover
    from your hard bouts of exercise and you will be more likely
    to be injured and tired all the time.

    References:
    1. Medicine and Science in Sport and Exercise
    1999(October);31(10):1406-13
    2. American Journal of Emergency Medicine, 1999;17(6):532-539
    3. British Journal of Sports Medicine, August 2003
    4. Medicine and Science in Sports and Exercise, January, 2007;
    and Clinical Journal of Sport Medicine, January 2007
    5. J Sports Sci 2007:15:297-303
    6. Eur J Appl Physiol 1996:73:317-325
    7. Clinical Autonomic Research, 2002;12(5):353-357
    8. American Journal of Hypertension, 2001;14(7, Part 1:653-659
    9. Journal of Hypertension. May 2011;29(5):821-828
    10. Journal of Human Hypertension, May 2006
    11. Lancet, published online March 2, 2009
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    Yeah!! A medical reason to eat potato chips!!

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    Great article Emily. I agree with everyone assessment that this year our weather went from winter to late summer temps in a flash and almost no one has had a chance to acclimate. To the original poster, don't feel bad we are almost all in the same boat. I felt like I was going to croak over the last two super hot and humid weekends on bike rides and here I sit in Michigan with temps at noon today of 59 F. Go figure. Monday and Tuesday we roasted in the upper 90's with heat indexes hovering at 100.

    Variety is good. But it does nothing to help get acclimated.
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    All I know is if I don't get calcium and magnesium on a hot sweaty ride I WILL get cramps. If I take extra (usually Endurolytes), then I don't.

    A friend of mine brings a handful of Endurolytes caps on hot weather and almost always winds up giving away what she doesn't take, to other people who are cramping.


    Last year I looked up some studies on mineral losses in sweat, and they were significant. It's too early for me to go chasing those links down again, but I probably posted a link at the time.
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    I bought pita chips (whole grain) and vegetable chips today and plan to take both on our long ride tomorrow. I'm so excited for some variety (and salty stuff!) on a ride as I get tired of nothing but sweets, and now I see that I really do need the extra salt (high of 94 predicted for tomorrow + humidity).
    Emily

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