60 Minutes: Tyler Hamilton claims Armstrong doped

[smilingcat]

sigh...

let's just go riding for our own enjoyment. And let the Monday morning quarterbacks bicker over hearsay.

[SheFly]

sigh...

let's just go riding for our own enjoyment. And let the Monday morning quarterbacks bicker over hearsay.

Amen!

I will, however, just add that if all of you think this is only happening in the Pro ranks, I am here to tell you that is absolutely false. Even the amateurs are doing what they feel they need to do to win, sadly.

And RideBikeME has it right - ultimately this isn't about whether or not Lance doped, but whether a federal agencies money (US Postal Service) was used to fund a doping program.

SheFly

[PscyclePath]

I believed Tyler at least at one point in time; and I believed Floyd, too. Only to be sorely disappointed.

I do not give a rat's rear end if Lance did dope... looking at all those who are now "coming clean," it appears that everyone at that level of professional cycling was doing it at the time, too. Many still are. In other sports (baseball, basketball, fooball), the doping is much more blatant, more intrusive, and far more easily winked at. And those guys aren't just doing EPO, either.

[Irulan]

No mention that these riders (Hincapie and Hamilton) have been subpoenaed by a Federal Grand Jury? That doesn't give you a whole lot of options..... ie, it's not optional. Maybe the interview was, but if things are as these say they are... it will all come out eventually and it's going to be nasty. Either way, you are going down. If it were me I'd probably do a deal to, to not spend years in jail.

I support these guys. If the feds have subpoenaed you, they've got the dope so to speak, and there's no going back; no getting out of it, no more covering up. I'm actually surprised that it's taking so long to come. I also don't think they were trying to throw LA under the bus... on the contrary, I felt like it was very clear that, "hey, this was ALL of us".

Maybe now the chance will come to have two separate tours. A clean one and a doped one.

[TrekTheKaty]

I don't usually read Bicycling, but this month Lance was on the cover. There is an interesting chart of the top 10 finishers for the years Lance won. If Lance was stripped of the title, there are only 2 years where there was another cyclist in the top three that wasn't caught doping. So then what?

[Becky]

The Federal grand jury thing is exactly what makes me think that Tyler's 60 Minutes interview was truthful. If he lies to the grand jury and is discovered, he loses his immunity. If he says one thing to the grand jury and another thing to 60 Minutes, it calls into question his testimony and jeopardizes his immunity. The only safe course of action was to tell the truth to both parties, or risk jail time.

All that said, fool me twice, shame on me.....