Quote Originally Posted by Irulan View Post
Maybe I'm not being articulate today. In no way was I suggesting that you were tolerating jumping - you brought up and underscored that some people think it's cute, acceptable, whatever; then added to that comment with how people underminine training efforts, and then I just went on to ask why the heck do people think it's cute or acceptable in general. Whether it's a 8 pound mini-dog jumping at your ankles, or a 125 pound newfie... it's never cute.

Back in ancient times when we were doing obedience work, we were taught to knee a dog in the chest or face to discourage jumping. Not as the dog handler, but as someone being approached by a jumper. What's the thinking nowadays when you see it coming?
Sorry, I misunderstood.

In general, I've found some people think you are being "mean" to the dog if you expect him to behave. Or they find the misbehavior to be funny. Everyone wants to be an indulgent grandparent.

One person I'm forced to put up with right now actually insists on feeding the dog treats when guests are here. She thinks it is funny and laughs at me when leave the room. Not a question of brains -- she has a PhD.

If I'm jumped on, I try saying "Sit." A lot of dogs know sit. Since I'm in a city with mostly leashed dogs, I have the option of backing away.

I can also be quite firm with the owner when needed.