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    Great article and perspective, written in a local publication by a local writer Stan Latrielle. Stan is a retired Judge.

    http://livingstontalk.com/editor-pic...e-of-violence/
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    I really like that article, Bike Writer. While I am shaking my head at those who think dancing in the streets today means there is no work left to be done (how is this different than people in other countries who shoot guns in the air when Americans are killed), I also shake my head at those who don't believe there are times we need to use force to fight real evil. I think it's hard for us to accept that this exists in the world. I know I am more aware of some of these things because I have a child in counter intelligence, who has no qualms about giving up his life for this, but also, the older I get, the more I think you can't have a "reflexive" attitude toward things. History often just doesn't go the way we want it to.
    I have a friend who wrote "Thank G-D for the USA, go USA" on her Facebook page today. To me, that is just the attitude we don't need. We are becoming ugly Americans. But, we also don't need the opposite, such as in proclaining the US is "bad" because we killed a violent terrorist. -
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    I am actually a bit disgusted with the dancing in the street and celebrating wildly. After 9/11 I remember some people being photographed world wide celebrating, are we any better than that? For me, I will leave him to be judged by the God he believed in. I am relieved that a man with so much hatred towards innoncent people is no longer able to help with terror acts.

    Having a friend murdered I learned nothing was gained by his murderer killing himself as well. I still miss my friend terribly but am thankful the person responsible cannot harm others. Closure didn't come from the murderer's death, it came from letting go of my anger and loving my friend's memory.
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    Aggie Ama +1.

    Glad he's gone...public jubillation seems inappropriate. I'm frankly embarrassed that it took us 10 yrs to get him...he's had ample tIme to be build infrastructure, transfer his substantial wealth to perpetuate funding the cause, and minimize the impact of his death.

    On the other hand, I wonder what the faithful now think...he wasn't living in a cave, but rather an affluent suburb in the city.
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    We killed an enemy that killed thousands and was a constant threat to our great country. Will it end terrorism? No, But the leader of the empire is gone and soon the enemy will crumble. I myself celebrated for all those that lost loved ones in 9/11 and had no way of fighting back. To second guess our military and their actions is part of the problem with this country. The seals that took on this mission are heros and are out fighting for our freedom. Whatever they did to his body, it doesn't matter. I have friends in the military including Navy Seals and perhaps my law enforcement career makes me believe that people should pay for their crimes. So hate me, it's my opinion and yeah...thank god for the USA!
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    I'm not adverse to him being dead, but it's the dancing in the streets that I am troubled by. There was dancing in the streets when the towers went down too, but I don't recall mention of dancing in the streets when Hitler was killed.
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    The cheering and honking went on a long time, I think. It's not something I would do, but I can understand why people feel the need for an emotional outpouring. They even had the bagpipers down there.

    I don't like the carnival-like atmosphere that develops on the 9/11 anniversaries, either, but it's not about me and it's a very trivial problem in the great scheme of things.
    Last edited by PamNY; 05-02-2011 at 02:09 PM.

 

 

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