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    I'm not going to lose sleep over losing my bike in my house. If you lock it and that's still not enough, I'm sorry you had such rotten luck. Your idea about an alarm is a good one.
    I think Marni was suggesting you take your bike apart the way others take guns apart to keep them safe too. (But i could be wrong)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Biciclista View Post
    I think Marni was suggesting you take your bike apart the way others take guns apart to keep them safe too. (But i could be wrong)
    That's how I read it too. It's pretty common practice...

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    Most of mine are locked onto the hot water heater in a closet.
    Edit - with alarms on all the doors and a motion sensor alarm.
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    Smiling Cat - what do you lock your bikes to? I have raised the limit of my renters insurance (replacement cost) and after thinking about it will probably raise it again.

    My apartment front door is quite solid, metal, and has two deadbolt locks - only one of which can be unlocked from the outside - you can't even tell from the outside that a second deadbolt exists. Of course there is a patio sliding door - but they would have to literally break the glass to get inside and that is quite the attention getter.

    After reading this discussion and thinking about it, I've moved my Gunnar into my bedroom where I never open the blinds, which means I now have Gunnar and Jamis is in the bedroom and LHT in living room. If I open the blinds all the way in the living room the LHT is right there, but I rarely do that and a bike thief in the know would know it isn't a very expensive bike.

    I do not have a locked closet or anything that I can really chain my bikes to, this is just a small 1-bedroom apartment.

    Good topic, thought provoking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Biciclista View Post
    I'm not going to lose sleep over losing my bike in my house. If you lock it and that's still not enough, I'm sorry you had such rotten luck. Your idea about an alarm is a good one.
    I think Marni was suggesting you take your bike apart the way others take guns apart to keep them safe too. (But i could be wrong)
    Ah, re-read it and see that too. Scariest thing is a friend had his house broken into and the thieves used a tool he had for trail building to pry open his gun safe. They made off with $20k in guns and a lot of piece of mind he had for his two young daughters. It was a safe he was recommended by a retired FBI agent.

    Is there a way to have your alarm system programmed to arm a garage too? We cannot fit this many bikes in the house unless we completely use one entire room for them. I am also looking at doing a rider on my homeowners.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aggie_Ama View Post
    Is there a way to have your alarm system programmed to arm a garage too? We cannot fit this many bikes in the house unless we completely use one entire room for them.
    Yes, a good alarm system will allow you to connect as many 'doors' as you wish - so you can include your house entrance, a garage door, an outdoors gate, patio door, etc. Also, if the system is properly set up, you will be able to select the arming parameters for each door (and window/other sensor), i.e. whether it allows a certain delay between opening each door and triggering the alarm - or alarm immediately.
    If there are several thefts in the area, I would suggest a good alarm system and possibly including CCTV.
    Don't rely on the standard systems sold as packages, customize it. Add door and windows sensors, glass break and vibration sensors (in case someone tries to break a window glass or drill a hole in your door), and indoor sensors (motion/sound/light/proximity). If especially concerned about the bikes you can set a perimeter around them and you will also receive specific event signals when that perimeter is broken (someone walks in).
    As per cameras, one good trick is to place your cameras in hidden and protected locations, and then place a few cameras on a separate circuit in visible places. That way, both circuits would be silently connected to the alarm system - but you could set your protected cameras on motion detection and record anyone trying to tamper with your visible cameras. But - use real cameras as your visible ones instead of decoys, so they still record additional hard evidence. The dual system prevents someone from blinding them all at the same time.
    The silent connection of the CCTV would be useful because it would trigger the alarm 'silently' i.e. send the signal to you and law enforcement but not start a siren. That way, the burglar is unaware that the alarm has already been triggered. By the time the burglars break in and set off the alarm system (and the siren sounds), you and the cops already have the video of their faces and license plate #s, and cops may even already be at your house.

    Anothr good trick is to always make your alarm system redundant: one wireless circuit on broadband, duplicate the connections on the phone landline, and then use a cell repeater as well. Have IP cameras and hard-wired CCTV streaming to DVR or tape, keep a main computer running the sysem and a backup computer (possibly a laptop with a battery).
    The redundance helps you because in the worst case scenario where the burglars are committed enough to cut a landline or a cable or shut off your breakers - the battery operated systems and computer will still run on a separate line and stream through the cell phone system to record the events and send the alarm to you and law enforcement.
    It would take a very prepared and committed thief to disable all systems in a short time and make it out before law enforcement arrives. Sure there's some good thiefs out there - but if your alarm is enough of a deterrent, it makes the amount of work needed much higher than the value of a bicycle, and the burglars will likely decide to move and target someone else.

    Quote Originally Posted by Aggie_Ama View Post
    I am also looking at doing a rider on my homeowners.
    Another good idea, yes. Several policies allow ou to schedule things like bicycles, cameras, jewelry, etc. It's definitely worth it.

    And, a couple of big guard dogs with free access to the garage may help too...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aggie_Ama View Post
    We cannot fit this many bikes in the house unless we completely use one entire room for them. I am also looking at doing a rider on my homeowners.
    As big as "bike people" that you are now... why not do this? Seriously. I've literally removed furniture in rooms, and parked cars outside the garage, to make more bike space.

    Quote Originally Posted by TxDoc View Post
    Another good idea, yes. Several policies allow ou to schedule things like bicycles, cameras, jewelry, etc. It's definitely worth it.

    And, a couple of big guard dogs with free access to the garage may help too...
    I have mine scheduled as a rider on my home owner's insurance as well. I thought the rates were responable... especially considering what my bikes are worth to me in my life.

    It's funny you say that about the dogs. Because for one thing it is true. Some tv show about thieves once I heard of said a dog is the number one deterent for thieves. The thief would figure out how to cut the security system before they would want to mess with the dog.

    When we had a bike theft attempt at our house it was when my late blonde lab was sick. It was shortly before I had to put her down, and she was simply too sick to bark. Otherwise, no one got near my house without me knowing it. The thieves came into the lighted garage, tried to pull my mtb outta the bike rack, and with the front glass door clearing showing me sitting at my pc from the road... that's some b*lls man... just my bike they were after... the most expensive one in the rack.

    Stealin peeps are crazy!

    p.s Edit Add: that bike is inside the house now, btw... yep, mtb mud in the knobbies and all... sitting right in my formal dining room... with white carpet, and victorian drapes... room is rarely ever used for dining... been thinking about taking out the table to make a better set up for the bikes! The carbon roadie sleeps across from the foot of my bed... and I did take out furniture there as well to make room for the bike lol.
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    Right now we have our guest bed covered in various bike parts, two carbon roadies in the room leaning against walls. The room is tiny so we might be able to fit one more bike but it is a PITA to take them out of our house, garage is much easier. My mountain bike, DH's mountain bike that is complete, his cross bike sit along side of the garage, right next to our car. The work in progress singlespeed is on the other side along with boxes that have been following us for 8 years of marriage. My goal is an organized and secure garage. Where I can go out, unlock my chosen steed and go. If my mountain bike is covered in dust and grim so what. I am using a self-help book to get my house to be uncluttered and organized. This is just one of my many stress and pain points that I would like to not be bothering me.
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    I was in a motorcycle shop and noticed an anti-theft/motion alert alarm system for the motorcycle. Perhaps this is another option?

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    Wow... what a vid!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aggie_Ama View Post
    Right now we have our guest bed covered in various bike parts, two carbon roadies in the room leaning against walls. The room is tiny so we might be able to fit one more bike but it is a PITA to take them out of our house, garage is much easier. My mountain bike, DH's mountain bike that is complete, his cross bike sit along side of the garage, right next to our car. The work in progress singlespeed is on the other side along with boxes that have been following us for 8 years of marriage. My goal is an organized and secure garage. Where I can go out, unlock my chosen steed and go. If my mountain bike is covered in dust and grim so what. I am using a self-help book to get my house to be uncluttered and organized. This is just one of my many stress and pain points that I would like to not be bothering me.
    Good for you!

    I finished that Clutter Busting book I posted about here, and have been at it ever since! It is such a great feeling when you are ready to let go of things that no longer serve your life. While I do have my bikes inside, I agree about the garage and convenience. I would like one bike that I mainly cruise short rides by home alone, or with the kids to be in the garage. I have a space cleared out to bolt down some rack to lock it to. However, it's only wood atm. I like the idea of drilling into the cement to make it a bit more secure.

 

 

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