Quote Originally Posted by badger View Post
Oh yes, I was picturing exactly one like that! thanks!

any experience with either of them? I could certainly use it when snowboarding, too. It absolutely hurts my face when sitting on the chair lift and the wind is pelting small bits of snow in -20C temps. Neck gaitors can do only so much.

I see the Canadian version of REI (MEC) carries the neoprene comfort one. I wonder if the fleece might be overkill for riding? definitely not for snowboarding, though.
I have one similar to that but very lightweight, from Gore: http://www.gorebikewear.com/remote/S...1208436871979A

I rode with it in MA winters down to about 10°F with great success. It's great for windbreaking but isn't real heavy or hot. The only thing about this type of thing is you should put your glasses *on top* of the nose piece, as otherwise your breath goes up into your glasses and fogs them up. And in very cold temps you get that whole ice/frost forming around your mouth, but that's an issue for any similar solution.