Hey, warm knees are important ! Better $80-ish spent on a very useful piece of clothing, than the incalcuable amt spent on medicine, phys therapy and lost bike time if you messed up your knees.

Yeah, that's the ticket.

Anything else you'd like for me to rationalize for you, MP?

Seriously, my knees were acting up a bit until fairly recently, and I'm finding that keeping them warm helps a lot. I bought a great pair of SportHill tights (no chamois - I wear them over my shorts) from TE which have worked superbly for my early am rides, but they're going to be overkill for daytime riding once it starts warming up a little. So I'm seriously looking into the Witches Britches for that in-between season.

Too bad TE doesn't carry them, but as Susan had explained on a different thread, there's no US distributor at the present time, and they don't choose to be a distributor. Oh well.