Holstein 100 v.2006

**Deanna** · 02-01-2006, 10:18 AM

Originally Posted by Veronica

Yeah and I have to get off the pot and decide on my third one. central Coast sounds pretty. Davis sounds flat and crowded. terrible sounds hard, but then I can answer the question - Which is the hardest DMD or TT?

V.

Do the Terrible Two! The route is being changed enough this year that all the course records are up for grabs! It could be a lot of fun and I'll be at one of the stops to cheer you on.

Deanna

**bikerz** · 02-01-2006, 10:35 AM

I'd like to do the Holstein 100 - that will be 2 months post-ALC, and I might be ready to look at my bike again by then!

For those hills, try them, like I do, with a 24 (gasp!) in front and a 34 in back - with good balance, it's possible to go as slow as 2.5 miles per hour uphill!

**SadieKate** · 02-01-2006, 10:50 AM

I'm running a 26x34. It gets me there. That's what counts.

Looks like we have a group thang starting.

**slinkedog** · 02-01-2006, 11:06 AM

I would REALLY like to get a different cassette in the back. I think I'm okay with my 30 in front, but right now my rear cassette is running a 12 x 27, which I realize is more granny than most have. I just changed it out last fall and haven't ridden it a ton yet.

I want to get strong and be able to do all those steep climbs with my current configuration, but I don't want to fry my knees. I'll keep thinking about it and looking for used mtb cassettes on craigslist and ebay.

**SadieKate** · 02-01-2006, 11:24 AM

12x27 is pretty standard these days with a triple. I don't think there should be a pride factor in what gear you use. I think you use the gears it takes to climb a hill and then buuild strength from there. Besides, there is no cookie cutter approach to gears, strength, leg leverage, crank length, etc., etc., etc. Your bike came equipped with whatever the manufacturer thought would work for the most people.

Besides, go find Yellow's Ode to her 27. That is a testiment to using gears as they were intended, not letting them use you.

**Veronica** · 02-01-2006, 12:21 PM

I have an 11 - 27 (I think) in the rear and a 48 - 36 - 24 front!

I am a big fan of not blowing out my knees. I pushed too big a gear on Sunday for the rollers out at Point Reyes and I paid for it on Monday! I don't ride a lot of rollers - everything I normally do is an extended climb and I just go down to the granny. Should have done that more.

V.

**Bike Goddess** · 02-01-2006, 02:00 PM

Originally Posted by SadieKate

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OK, I think I figured out that you're talking about the Mt Tam Double held inconjunction with the Marin Century. Different weekend that the Holstein.

SK- do you have an inside source? When I looked at the Napa club site, they don't have the date yet for this year!

**SadieKate** · 02-01-2006, 02:08 PM

Simple process of deduction, Watson.

The two rides are on the same day, as shown on: http://www.marincyclists.com/html/Ma...05MtTamDbl.htm

The 2006 California Triple Crown Schedule states the Mt Tam Double is on 8/5/06: http://www.caltriplecrown.com/schedule.htm

Therefore, the Marin Century is on 8/5/06

The Holstein is a couple of weeks later and, therefore, a different weekend.

**Bike Goddess** · 02-01-2006, 04:14 PM

Therefore, the Marin Century is on 8/5/06

Oh, Now I get it! You were talkling about the Marin Century and I was talkling about the NAPA century. The Napa Century was the day after the Holstein century last year which is why I didn't do the Holstein!!!

**SadieKate** · 02-01-2006, 04:18 PM

Originally Posted by Bike Goddess

Another nice century that covers similar scenery is the Marin Century. Veronica could do the Double and the rest of us could do the century!

You're making me feel like a ping pong ball, Nancy.

**Bike Goddess** · 02-01-2006, 04:18 PM

Hey V- Re DMD or TT. I think TT MIGHT be harder because of the nasty heat. AND there's a tough climb in the Calistoga area. Roborider on the BJ can tell you 1st hand. HE's a triple crown guy two years running now.

**Veronica** · 02-01-2006, 04:45 PM

Thanks Nancy - I want to decide which is harder for me.

I do pretty well in the heat.

According to the official Cal Triple Crown website, it looks like he didn't complete either of the rides I want to compare. Of course he DID do 508.

V.

**Veronica** · 02-02-2006, 05:54 AM

Originally Posted by Deanna

Do the Terrible Two! The route is being changed enough this year that all the course records are up for grabs! It could be a lot of fun and I'll be at one of the stops to cheer you on.

Deanna

So I can set the record for slowest speed while still actually moving forward on the bike, or most Paydays eaten in one mile or most determined to finish, don't you dare SAG me in?

V.

**Bike Goddess** · 02-02-2006, 09:37 AM

SK-- No,No! No ping pong ball here! Just a mix up in which rides we were talking about!

**Bike Goddess** · 02-02-2006, 09:57 AM

V- I'll ask around for you. Too bad you couldn't do the Death Valley Double in March as it doesn't have that much elev. gain. I'll be doing the century.

Sounds like your plan is Solvang Double, DMD and one other.

Here are some comments from Homey on the BJ and another guy from Huntington Beach. Homey's also done 508 solo and is on this year's RAAM team. Don't know about the other fellow.

In reality these kinds of questions are all relative because there are so many variables that go into how people perceive the difficulty of a particular ride. The easy variables are distance and climbing but you also have to throw in weather and your condition when you do the ride and how hard you push yourself during the ride. As far as the TT and Devil Mtn Dble and C2K go I would put them all into the category of extremely hard rides.

ps. if they ran the DMD the same time of year as the TT it would be the toughest double...period! (Homey)

Terrible Two is by far the hardest one-day ride I have ever done. Next would be Devil Mountain Double... (other fellow)

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