Yes, it'll be interesting to see what these 2 go for, because of the rare highest-quality steel frames. Obviously they both need a lot of work (and money) put into them - ideally, full bare-frame-upwards rebuilds to do justice to those frames!

hebe, I seem to recall you've had your eye on Lunar Bicycle's Therese mixtes, which they claim are built up on Mercian frames -- any idea what they're charging for those? I've been wondering, since my re-build plans for my Puch are going to leave a distinct "town bike sized hole" in my stable!!