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    I'm not quite getting how the cleat could have separated from the shoe without damaging the sole. Were the bolts loose? How does the LBS think it happened?

    Is it possible that the cleat coming off caused the crash, and not the other way around? Sudden separation under load (which could happen if the shoe failed) could easily cause a fall. I've seen a shoe fail before (it was just starting from a stop and he didn't fall), so it does happen, but I really don't know what kind of stress the rider might have put on the shoe before it failed. Might it be a warranty issue?
    Last edited by OakLeaf; 09-06-2010 at 11:10 AM.
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    My goodness!!! Are you okay and how does your ankle feel? I can't imagine the force it would take to rip the cleat out of your shoe and not hurt your leg, ankle or foot!

    I wonder if the threads got stripped out of the bottom of your shoe when the cleat was torn loose?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bike Chick View Post
    My goodness!!! Are you okay and how does your ankle feel? I can't imagine the force it would take to rip the cleat out of your shoe and not hurt your leg, ankle or foot!

    I wonder if the threads got stripped out of the bottom of your shoe when the cleat was torn loose?
    I'm more or less okay. I taped up my knee before the ride and the RockTape actually prevented road rash. Only minor scratches. I must have put my hand down because my thumb hurts a little bit, but nothing serious.

    It is possible that not all of the screws were in tightly or something.

    The guy at the LBS said my shoes & cleats showed higher than average wear considering I've only had them since April. They have just under 1000km of use.
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    Maybe I'm confusing skiing with cycling, but I think your cleat should separate from your pedals (not your shoe) when you wreck. That could cause injury.

    When was the last time you had tightened your cleats? Mine need to be adjusted occasionally.

    I wouldn't be worried about your shoes, but I would be worried about the set up on your pedals.
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    It sounds to me like her cleat just crumbled and broke around the screws on the shoes - which may mean that the release setting on her pedal is a bit high - or something was wrong with the cleat. I don't think I'd be worried about the shoe though and am glad that she's not too badly injured.

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    Glad you are ok.

    Go ahead and ride with your shoes a while. Shoes aren't protective in the same way as a helmet, so there isn't the same issue with replacement after a crash.

    I think you'll be able to tell if your shoes are wrecked. They won't feel right any more.
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    I have never heard of shoes being compromised because of a wreck, except maybe the stiffness of the sole. Or maybe the bolt holes would be stripped but it doesn't sound like the screws/bolts that attach to your shoes were even part of the issue.

    Did you install the cleats or the LBS? If you did maybe they can go over what might of caused it. If it was the LBS I would personally make sure another employee did it. Not that people can't have a bad day but I would keep wondering on my new cleats! Glad you're okay, that is the important part.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cataboo View Post
    Does it feel like the sole of your shoe flexes more when you pedal with them? If yes, and you like a stiff shoe, then maybe you want to replace them.
    I didn't really notice much difference in the ride back to my car, aside from not being clipped in.

    Quote Originally Posted by OakLeaf View Post
    I'm not quite getting how the cleat could have separated from the shoe without damaging the sole. Were the bolts loose? How does the LBS think it happened?

    Is it possible that the cleat coming off caused the crash, and not the other way around? Sudden separation under load (which could happen if the shoe failed) could easily cause a fall. I've seen a shoe fail before (it was just starting from a stop and he didn't fall), so it does happen, but I really don't know what kind of stress the rider might have put on the shoe before it failed. Might it be a warranty issue?
    Originally, that's what I was thinking. However, those aren't the screws that screw into the bottom of the shoe. The screws that attach the cleat to the shoe were still firmly in place. As you can see in the picture, some black plastic is attached around the screws. That's part of the Speedplay cleats that broke, which caused the cleat to come off the shoe. Parts of the cleat were still attached to the shoe.

    Pretty sure it was my stupidity that caused the crash. I was trying to turn around and not actually pedalling at the time. I lost my balance and fell at a pretty low speed.
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    2009 Trek 6000 (stock Bontrager saddle)
    2009 Trek 1.5 (Specialized Ruby SL)

 

 

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