Quote Originally Posted by Catrin View Post
hmmmm, these days I am sure what marks me the quickest as a new rider is my speed Especially in the hills, though it is overall I think. I start at the rear on organized rides because there is where I will very quickly be - so saving the time or others to pass me
Oh...you would NOT be alone back there, as I would likely be back there with ya! I've been riding steadily for 3 years now...I average about 5k miles a season and I still suck at hill climbing. But I'm pretty slow "overall", too. I don't really consider myself a "newbie", at least not in the same sense that I would in regards to somebody that literally "just started" biking.

Linda