The thing about being a new rider...

[KnottedYet]

Here's a fun rant on pedals: http://www.rivbike.com/article/clothing/the_shoes_ruse

A little science: http://jn.physiology.org/cgi/content/full/83/6/3351
this sounds like a good one, but I can only see the abstract: http://www.jelectromyographykinesiol...181-2/abstract
proof that whatever theory you want to support, you can find research that will support it: http://www.fredericgrappe.com/CV/bibliographie/D7.pdf
And you can have it both ways: http://www.springerlink.com/content/n453621502u03657/

Or you can ask yourself if you would trade net mechanical efficeincy for increased pedalling effectiveness: https://www.thieme-connect.com/ejour...s-2008-1038374 (in other words, clips are great if you are sprinting)

Why do we women feel this urge to beat ourselves up, tear ourselves down, and be disapppointed in ourselves? Why all this deep and heavy emotional baggage and guilt over a pedal? Don't worry. Ride now what works now. Try again what you think should work better in a month or two. Get strength and bike handling skills up the wazoo, take a break from the emotionally fraught and overwrought clipless experience for a while, and then toss the clipless back into the mix.

(and ride your clipless every which way in a big grassy field. That was the best clipless advice anyone ever gave me!)

[AMP]

I'm only a couple of months back into cycling after a long--15 year-- hiatus. I love my new bike, cannot believe the efficiency of the SRAM red, how light weight the bike is, how easy, or easier the hills are.
Then I get to pedals. Sigh. I am gamely soldiering on with clipless. Two sets, two pairs of shoes.
But while on a ride last evening over rolling hills, I just couldn't enjoy the speed because I kept worrying about crashing and not getting my foot out/off the pedal.
Also, when I do clip out on the paved road, my clip on my shoe--I have speedplays now--skids like crazy, and I'm afraid I'll fall that way.
I miss my cages, and I miss not being so afraid.
I do get the power tansfer...I get up hills more efficiently...but now I'm too afraid to gather the momentum on the downhill to get up the next one. So each hill is its very own little mountain.
I'll give it another month and see if I can get the fear factor under control. If not, I'm going to have to go back to my other pedals.
For being new to cycling, I'm noticing this exact discussion on so many forums. It seems the technology is not "elegant" enough not to cause anxiety.

[KnottedYet]

I miss my cages, and I miss not being so afraid.

Ride what you like.
Not much point in being miserable on the bike.
Everyone has their own preferences. And they do better on their own preferences than on someone else's. Don't be afraid to be yourself.

I managed to find a pedal wrench with a super-long handle (and a hollow handle so I can add a pry bar to make it even longer!) so I can switch pedals willy-nilly as the mood strikes me. It's lovely! Freedom and power and leverage to beat the band!

[ny biker]

I'm only a couple of months back into cycling after a long--15 year-- hiatus. I love my new bike, cannot believe the efficiency of the SRAM red, how light weight the bike is, how easy, or easier the hills are.
Then I get to pedals. Sigh. I am gamely soldiering on with clipless. Two sets, two pairs of shoes.
But while on a ride last evening over rolling hills, I just couldn't enjoy the speed because I kept worrying about crashing and not getting my foot out/off the pedal.
Also, when I do clip out on the paved road, my clip on my shoe--I have speedplays now--skids like crazy, and I'm afraid I'll fall that way.
I miss my cages, and I miss not being so afraid.
I do get the power tansfer...I get up hills more efficiently...but now I'm too afraid to gather the momentum on the downhill to get up the next one. So each hill is its very own little mountain.
I'll give it another month and see if I can get the fear factor under control. If not, I'm going to have to go back to my other pedals.
For being new to cycling, I'm noticing this exact discussion on so many forums. It seems the technology is not "elegant" enough not to cause anxiety.

I'm not sure I understand -- why are you worried about crashing when you're going downhill? Did you have the same concerns with regular pedals?

[trista]

Here's a fun rant on pedals: http://www.rivbike.com/article/clothing/the_shoes_ruse

I loved that article! I do use the upstroke on hills, but I can't sustain it, and I have always thought it must be my inexperience or lack of strength - that all cyclists must be able to pull up AND down at the same time on both feet, all the time. After reading that, I feel a little differently.

Maybe I feel like I lose power when going clipless because I've been TOLD that so many times. Sitting here at my desk, I can't say whether I actually do. Two falls in 1 month BECAUSE of clips has me thinking, maybe I should go without for awhile....

[malkin]

Between cycling, my natural clumsiness, and my work with kids with autism I can't keep track of where all the bruises come from.

[Veronica]

I get a bruise every time I ride. I don't know where they come from... they just appear after every ride.

I wear mountain bike shoes when I ride. They don't skid on the asphalt and I can wear the same pair of shoes no matter which bike I'm riding and Crank Brothers eggbeaters on all my bikes.

Veronica

[BleeckerSt_Girl]

Why do we women feel this urge to beat ourselves up, tear ourselves down, and be disapppointed in ourselves? Why all this deep and heavy emotional baggage and guilt over a pedal? Don't worry. Ride now what works now. Try again what you think should work better in a month or two. Get strength and bike handling skills up the wazoo, take a break from the emotionally fraught and overwrought clipless experience for a while, and then toss the clipless back into the mix.

Well said, Knot.

[ny biker]

My trainer's advice before I got clipless pedals was: don't get them unless you can laugh at yourself when you do something dumb.

And yeah, do what makes you happy, otherwise what's the point? Forget about what everyone else is doing and what anybody else thinks. Just have fun.

[PamNY]

Why do we women feel this urge to beat ourselves up, tear ourselves down, and be disapppointed in ourselves? Why all this deep and heavy emotional baggage and guilt over a pedal?

I'm fairly certain men do this too.

It is an interesting discussion though -- I would love to try clipless at some point but just don't see doing it in the city.

[Crankin]

Is your bike skidding, or do you mean the cleat on your Speedplay is skidding across the road?
If I clip out early, in anticipation, I just rest my foot on top of the pedal. Yea, it slows you down, because you can't really pedal, but mostly in these situations, you are coming to a stop. Otherwise, you will ruin your cleats by dragging your foot on the road when you unclip.

[Eden]

One thing to remember is that clipless pedals are like ski bindings (in fact modern ski bindings were the inspiration for the first clipless pedals) - if you do fall and your foot is twisted your foot will pop out on its own.

[Catrin]

I wish that "I" could "just" bruise. Apparently I just skip the whole bruising stage and head straight to cuts, abrasions, blood and scarring from chain, chain ring, and BMX pedals. My calves are becoming quite a sight! However if that is what it takes, then that is fine. At 50 years old I won't be entering a sexy leg contest. I guess that it depends on the definition of a sexy leg....though they do have many more muscles than they once did

[KnottedYet]

Catrin-
You've mentioned cuts and scarring from your bear trap pedals several times now. What exactly are you doing on your road bike that leads to wolloping yourself on the pedals?

And what is this "leaning" the bike you do to mount and dismount that is grinding up one pedal?

[Catrin]

Catrin-
You've mentioned cuts and scarring from your bear trap pedals several times now. What exactly are you doing on your road bike that leads to wolloping yourself on the pedals?

And what is this "leaning" the bike you do to mount and dismount that is grinding up one pedal?

I have these pedals. Those metal thingies are not sharp at the top, but the edges get me quite often.

I am getting better, but they most often get me when I am moving the pedal around to get the right pedal at the right height when I am preparing to start. Or when I am walking my bike from my car-port to the apartment and my leg brushes the pedal - generally my right leg as I walk it on the left side of the bike. I seem to be improving at avoiding the pedals as I only have one new pedal wound this weekend out of 60 miles worth of riding. They also tend to draw blood when I am walking the LHT when it is still between my legs.... I really do like the pedals better than the plastic bear-claws I had as the metal thingies keep my feet from slipping 99% of the time.

I lean my bike over to get my leg over the saddle and top tube - the tube is high enough that I really can't do it any other way. Sometimes I lean it over a bit too far and the left pedal hits the ground - the outside "spindle" bit - unsure what that is called. I can't lift my leg high enough to get it over the TT without leaning it... If I were to remember to check to see where the pedal is before I do this then it wouldn't be so scruffed up

Thankfully at least my chain/chain ring bites are decreasing greatly in frequency

I figure taking a file to the edges of those metal thingies would defeat the purpose of having them - and they do their job well!