Quote Originally Posted by bcipam View Post
funny post and timely... I just got back from camping on the North Rim of the Grand Canyon. You had to pee in the shrubs, no outhouse. Plenty of folks walking around and I ran into them and they ran into me. In the middle of the night I got disoriented and walk in the wrong direction of camp... that was fun!

For number 2 we had a "groover" - a small square box, on the edge of the Canyon. Great views but kindof scary especially when windy. You can use a limited amount of toilet paper, and you could not pee...

think outhouses are all that bad anymore?

Groovers almost always have a good view. As die hard wilderness river runners (one of our family's other sports) we are used to the groover concept. For those of you not in the loop, groovers or wag bags are for leave no trace situations. It's very common for any permit wilderness situation like a permitted river, where everyone camps in the same camps night after night. The big discussion with the groover ( other than who carries ) is, can we have both privacy and a great view?