Thank you for all your replies. It seems like WSD bikes are really best for women with short torsos, which I do not have. I bought into the WSD concept because of the lighter weight and the smaller proportions for my hands. My problem is that my local shops don't have a lot on the floor. No 51 Roubaix to try. I have traveled around some, but I have troubled a lot of salespeople along the way in my search for a WSD bike. "Not her again!"