The Swine Flu Shot a Waste of Time!

**indigoiis** · 10-30-2009, 11:22 AM

Originally Posted by mickchick

Now what pisses me off is when someone who is sick comes into work and spreads it around. People where I work are TOLD to stay home if they have the flu. A lot of folks ignore this, however (everyone where I work has sick leave as a benefit, so it's not like they aren't paid if they are off).

Yes, this bothers me too. Nothing is so important that you HAVE to come in to work coughing, sneezing, spreading germs. I don't get that!!!

**Crankin** · 10-30-2009, 11:40 AM

I'm with Eden and Knott. I had the seasonal shot for the first time in my life about a month ago. And I have had the flu; to those who say they have a "flu" you shouldn't use the words so casually. Seven days in bed, 105 fever, and a recovery that took 5-8 weeks. I am sure i had pneumonia.
I am in a high risk category, with mild asthma and I cannot find a place to get the H1N1, especially since I need the single dose shot (I'm too old for the mist) with no preservative. At this point, I am wiling to risk the reaction to the mercury because I am pretty sure if I caught it, I'd be the one in the hospital with pneumonia and be dead.
I don't have contact with kids anymore and I was born in the fifties. But I do work in a psychiatric clinic 3 days a week and use public transportation/go to grad classes twice a week. I never was a hand washer until now. Now I am obsessed.
I guess I value my life too much to say I am not getting the shot. Short from staying inside my house 24 hours a day, I think it's the best protection we have. And this is from someone who has reactions to everything.

**NbyNW** · 10-30-2009, 11:55 AM

Originally Posted by indigoiis

Nothing is so important that you HAVE to come in to work coughing, sneezing, spreading germs. I don't get that!!!

+1!!!!

My boss decided last winter that it would be okay to spread her germs around the office, and the next thing you know, the rest of us were dropping like flies, AND I had the worst asthma flare-up that I've had in YEARS as a result. Took months to start feeling well again, and most of the time was not up to the kind of physical activity I would have liked.

Re: whether to get vaccinated or not, I wonder whether those who don't get the vaccine (for whatever reason -- by choice, lack of availability, or contraindicated) might be few enough and not in contact with immune-compromised people that hopefully the risk is minimized enough to deem the vaccine successful in terms of controlling the spread of the virus? (Sorry about the poor sentence construction)

**OakLeaf** · 10-30-2009, 12:08 PM

FWIW, if you don't have an anaphylactoid reaction to eating eggs, you can get the shot. I have the other type of egg allergy, and I actually tried to get a note from my allergist to get out of the seasonal flu shot - specifically so I could get the H1N1 shot without reservations - but no dice. (And I've never been asked about feather allergy, and never had an allergic reaction to a vaccine, even though feathers are the one thing that induces a very severe asthma attack for me.)

Who's saying it's going to be two+ months before the H1N1 shot will be available to the public? That's not what I'm hearing at all - in our area all first responders were vaccinated last month, pregnant women and young children are getting it right now, and we're expecting everyone who wants one will have access by the end of November.

**Tuckervill** · 10-30-2009, 01:10 PM

"Meanwhile, Tom Skinner at the CDC is hopeful that the shortage will be resolved by mid-November or early December, as the agency has projected."

http://www.forbes.com/2009/10/27/swi...-shortage.html

I've heard the virus doesn't grow as fast as they thought it would in the eggs.

Karen

**OakLeaf** · 10-30-2009, 01:19 PM

Originally Posted by Tuckervill

"mid-November or early December"

Not far different from the "end of November" I've been hearing.... certainly not January or later.

**Tuckervill** · 10-30-2009, 01:40 PM

I heard January somewhere else. Actually, what I heard was "2010" for everyone to get fully vaccinated. But I admit it was on the news, in passing, and it could have been before they figured out how to increase production.

Karen

**badger** · 10-30-2009, 01:51 PM

my dad has leukemia and taking chemo which has left him with virtually no immune system to speak of.

He's already gotten his shot, so I'm glad about that. I'm still sitting on the fence in regards to my taking the H1N1. I won't bother with the seasonal flu vaccine, as I just never do, but I'm a bit weary of the H1N1 simply because I would hate it to mutate like it did in 1918 and kill the young and healthy.

I also admit that, although this is a very rare side effect, I do worry about adverse effects of the shots:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mh5F5wP8RdU

**Tuckervill** · 10-30-2009, 02:10 PM

Oh my word. That was so bizarre. Poor woman.

Karen

**Cataboo** · 11-02-2009, 09:24 PM

Originally Posted by badger

my dad has leukemia and taking chemo which has left him with virtually no immune system to speak of.

He's already gotten his shot, so I'm glad about that. I'm still sitting on the fence in regards to my taking the H1N1. I won't bother with the seasonal flu vaccine, as I just never do, but I'm a bit weary of the H1N1 simply because I would hate it to mutate like it did in 1918 and kill the young and healthy.

I also admit that, although this is a very rare side effect, I do worry about adverse effects of the shots:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mh5F5wP8RdU

With no immune system to speak of - the leukemia & the chemo, chances are the h1n1 shot is not going to be effective for your father and he didn't build up immunity to it.

If you have the chance to get the vaccine & the normal flu vaccine, I'd suggest you might want to do it - just because it'd suck if you gave him the flu. I know my father's oncologist recommended the entire family get it when he was on chemo.

**shootingstar** · 11-02-2009, 09:49 PM

Originally Posted by badger

my dad has leukemia and taking chemo which has left him with virtually no immune system to speak of.

He's already gotten his shot, so I'm glad about that. I'm still sitting on the fence in regards to my taking the H1N1. I won't bother with the seasonal flu vaccine, as I just never do, but I'm a bit weary of the H1N1 simply because I would hate it to mutate like it did in 1918 and kill the young and healthy.

I'm very sorry about this, badger. I wasn't aware of this at all.

**lo123** · 10-31-2009, 11:17 AM

Originally Posted by OakLeaf

Who's saying it's going to be two+ months before the H1N1 shot will be available to the public? That's not what I'm hearing at all - in our area all first responders were vaccinated last month, pregnant women and young children are getting it right now, and we're expecting everyone who wants one will have access by the end of November.

Some states, like Alabama, where I'm at, are restricting which of the at risk groups get vaccine because of the shortage. I cannot get it yet because the groups they're allowing to get vaccine now do not include those with underlying health conditions or immunosuppression unless they're 18 or younger.

Still no word here on when they'll start expanding the pool of eligible groups, let alone open it to the general public.

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