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    O give me a break!

    If it wasn't Lance this wouldn't have even made the news.

    Being in a standing (rather than seated) position can change the test results by more than a percent. I'm betting dehydration can account for a percent or two as well. Sorry, but you have to get out of the signal error level to convince this scientist... Not to mention that the values quoted are actually on the LOW end of normal, far lower than numbers that would cause suspicion of blood doping in anyone else.

    Sounds like some snot-nosed fresh PhD grad trying to stir the pot and make a name for himself. Poo on him!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MartianDestiny View Post
    O give me a break!

    If it wasn't Lance this wouldn't have even made the news.
    Sure it would. Doping in cycling's been big news for the last couple of years. Whether it's Lance or any lesser known rider, though, it annoys the bejeebus out of me that this stuff gets into print before anything's been proven. Rumor and speculation are not news, and it's a shame that journalists can't learn that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalidurga View Post
    Sure it would. Doping in cycling's been big news for the last couple of years. Whether it's Lance or any lesser known rider, though, it annoys the bejeebus out of me that this stuff gets into print before anything's been proven. Rumor and speculation are not news, and it's a shame that journalists can't learn that.
    You missed my point.

    With THOSE NUMBERS it wouldn't have been published if it wasn't Lance because it wouldn't be suspicious if it wasn't Lance (which is to say it's not particularly suspicious).

    It's a jerk "scientist" and a jerk journalist twisting the facts around and betting on the general public not having a clue what the numbers mean, what's normal, or how easily it is affected by normal things and also not caring enough or having access to the resources to look it up.
    Last edited by MartianDestiny; 09-03-2009 at 08:20 AM.

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    There are plenty of Lance detractors.. I really don't want to be involved on either side of things.

    The tech who released the data should be fired for releasing the data. And the journalist who wrote the article is just trying to make a buck off something mundane. Is this what we call yellow journalism?

    Well, it hasn't stooped low like the Brazilian newscaster who was recently arrested and implicated in several murders. He is alleged to have commissioned the gruesome killings. Strange that he happened to be in the area and got to the crime scene before the police in like 5 killings just this past year.

    Just some rotten apples in journalism.

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    This doesn't appear to be the case of a tech releasing info they shouldn't. This comes from the publically available blood values that Lance posted on his website.
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    Quote Originally Posted by smilingcat View Post

    The tech who released the data should be fired for releasing the data. And the journalist who wrote the article is just trying to make a buck off something mundane. Is this what we call yellow journalism?

    Yellow Jersey-ism

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    Quote Originally Posted by kenyonchris View Post
    Yellow Jersey-ism
    I was waiting for someone to say that.

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    It's just a crock of you-know-what for publicity sake. They never get tired of trying to pin this on him, even after all these years of testing where they could never find anything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kenyonchris View Post
    Yellow Jersey-ism
    Love that!
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