SadieKate - yes, those are the shorts. I know the mesh is supposed to be up far enough not to show anything, but if I'm going to go bare I don't want to take any chances. I live in a small town and the last thing I need is everyone and their mother knowing I mooned someone on a road in the middle of nowhere.

On a more positive note, I absolutely loves the chamois in the pedal pushers - so so so so so much better than the one in the Treks. Definitely a good underlayer for long rides. I might try to find a different pair of Sheebest shorts that don't have the mesh at the top - do they make those?

Bike Goddess - holy cow! You do a lot of riding! I'm impressed.