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  1. #1
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    One word: FLYLADY

    www.flylady.com

    You can take what you want and leave the rest ---but their system for eliminating clutter, and LEARNING HOW TO NOT CREATE MORE CLUTTER is totally awesome.

    If you can get past the cutesy-ness of the program, it is really worthwhile to get the email reminders for a minimum of one month, and learn some of the new ideas.

    They really target those of us who are overwhelmed by our clutter; or don't even know where to be begin when trying to get rid of things; they acknowledge the emotional aspects of clutter and give tips for that...

    29 item flings rule.

    I found this system very very helpful. It gives you really small chunks of things to do so it's not overwhelming at all. I really like this, as compared to the weekend long purge that leaves us exhausted emotionally and physically.

    I give a thumbs down to craig's list or Ebay. Why? Getting things ready to go on sale or waiting to get the right price is just another excuse to keep it hanging around. One of the things I learned from Flylady it to either Goodwill it, or throw it away. And don't keep those Goodwill bags hanging around either.
    Last edited by Irulan; 07-20-2009 at 01:07 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Irulan View Post
    One word: FLYLADY

    www.flylady.com
    +1

    We've loosely followed Flylady on and off for years now. Our house is not where I would want it to be, but it's better than it was, and without Flylady it would have been worse instead of better.

    For me a huge thing is dealing with things as they come in, as I'm bad about putting stuff to the side "for later". I'm far from perfect at it, but a lot of crap that comes through the door gets circumvented (junk mail, and wrappings from things we buy comes to mind).

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    There are shipping places here (Ship On Site) that will list things on e-bay for you. They will take the picture, post it, help you price it, and handle the sale and shipping for you. There is probably something similar where you are.

    Something I have found helpful is to try not to tackle it all at once. Make a goal to do one thing a day. Tomorrow you could take the bags of clothes to Goodwill or some other charity. Or take the designer clothes to a consignment shop. Sometimes I end up giving stuff away just because of the hassle factor of selling it, and I need to get it out of the house!


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    Craigslist can be easy, or it can be exceptionally frustrating.. for me it's hit or miss. I've had some things sell within minutes that I thought would be a chore to get rid of, and other stuff that just won't budge no matter what.

    Of course the people who contact you are a mixed lot.. that's for sure. Some are total flakes

    It's free and very easy to add things for sale though... which is a HUGE benefit over places like ebay.

  5. #5
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    ++1 on Flylady. It's helped me alot, and I only do the very basics. Granted, I got divorced and moved, and moved very little stuff with me. It's LIBERATING to not have so much stuff--something to keep in mind when you are tempted to buy things.

    My first rule is to be VERY careful about bringing stuff in the house in the first place. I hate shopping, so that helps already. But really think before you add stuff.

    My issue is with mail. I bring it in and let it pile up, sometimes for a week. My solution is to log it in a notebook. That way, I have to acknowledge what I receive, who it's from, and what I did with it (file, respond, bill). It's helped me deal with it right away.

    Ebay could work, but it sounds like an awful lot of hassle to me! And then you have to find the item when it sells...which might not be so easy unless you are organized...which if you were, you wouldn't need to be selling things on ebay to start with!

    Check out Flylady, and remember that you don't have to do everything at once. And you don't have to be perfect.

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    +1 on Flylady

    I did it for a while until I couldn't handle the volume of email anymore. My house is still pretty cluttered - it was hard to fit in all that daily maintenance cleaning in with the three part-time jobs and child's after school activity schedule.

    The one thing I picked up from Flylady, though: If it's not blessing you, let it bless someone else.

    That one statement awoke my inner Altruist and made it so much easier to let go of clothes, furnishings, baby gear, dishes, kitchen gadgets, and over a decade of accumulated stuff. I took eleven pick-up truck loads of stuff to the local battered women's shelter. They help women start lives anew, and I had some pretty good stuff that could make it easier.

    My mother cringes when she thinks of me giving away what was probably tens of thousands of dollars' worth of stuff - she's a total packrat collector - but man, it was so freeing.

    I realized how anchored we are by material things. Or how much I was anyway.

    If it's not blessing you or your family, let it bless someone else, and then don't think about it again.

    Regarding the paper, yeah, I open my mail over the recycling bin, too. I've also moved most of my bill paying online. I don't get a whole lot of paper mail anymore that really requires my attention.

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    Red face Now if I could only clean

    I'm awful at house cleaning but pretty good with clutter.

    All rooms have an "out box" which gradually moves downstairs and into the box by the door. Anytime I'll be going by Goodwill, Magic Johnson Thrift store, American Cancer Society Thrift Store, Habitat for Humanity ..... the trunk gets filled.

    I keep a list of what I donated.

    Turbotax has a system that will calculate the value of items donated. Clearing the home ahead of the remodel and getting ready to move I donate a lot. It helps around tax time and if the items help someone else and a charity it's good.
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    I'm selling my house. I've got a boatload of stuff to go to the thrift shop. my realtor wants me to have a moving sale but I can't be bothered and would just as soon give things away.
    I will probably get rid of more stuff out of the "keep" pile before I move.

    My ex was a huge pack rat and it was disgusting. It's nice to be able to know where things are.

    Will check out the flylady.
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    dealing with clutter starts with why you hold on to stuff. You can Craig's list and Ebay all you want, but if you don't deal with how it got there in the first place, you won't get any traction at all. However you got it ( garage sales, hoarding, just-in-case, I'll need it someday etc) is what you have to deal with, or you'll be back here next year with a whole new pile of stuff that you'll be wondering how to get rid of.

  10. #10
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    Quote Originally Posted by channlluv View Post

    I took eleven pick-up truck loads of stuff to the local battered women's shelter. They help women start lives anew, and I had some pretty good stuff that could make it easier.

    My mother cringes when she thinks of me giving away what was probably tens of thousands of dollars' worth of stuff - she's a total packrat collector - but man, it was so freeing.

    I realized how anchored we are by material things. Or how much I was anyway.

    If it's not blessing you or your family, let it bless someone else, and then don't think about it again. Roxy
    11 truckloads of donated stuff --wow. And you weren't moving households?

    I'm probably due for some material purging. When I moved from Toronto to Vancouver, I did sell off 40 books to other employees for $1 each. Gave away another 50 to a fundraising book sale for one of the church colleges.

    Donated several bags of brand new fabric ends to a women's shelter/support service. I did used to sew and accumulated an extra box of brand new uncut fabric.

    We no longer buy any knicknacks for home. Admittedly I vaguely cringe when we get one for a gift from others. We have more artwork than you can imagine, stuff he and I have bought from artists, paintings I've done and what his daughter had done in past few years and given to him as gifts. He won't throw it out..for obvious sentimental reasons, even though some of it I know she would write off by now, as purely experimental. I have discarded some of my own artwork..which confounds some family members.

    And I have a ton of art supplies. I know for certain to whom I could give some of the stuff as well-appreciated gifts that would be used properly. But I'm hoarding the stuff since I know Muse attacks me at unexpected times in life.

    In Canada, our tax laws don't allow claiming this type of hand-me down goods to charities for our personal tax saving purposes. So latter is not a motivator when we donate used personal goods.

    He is neat but now it's problematic since he started up his own business. That requires some paperwork that must be kept even though he's highly disciplined going electronic as far as he can....which means more computer peripherals crowding about.
    Last edited by shootingstar; 07-20-2009 at 05:47 PM.
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