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  1. #1
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    I think I understand, it's more about the behavior than the clothing. I've seen a few women dressed minimally for a ride, behaving as if they were in a singles bar. I swear, one woman was wearing a pushup bra! I suspect they would behave this way no matter where they were, or what they were wearing. They are the same ones that show up in full makeup for a century.

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    I don't know.. I wear tank tops (made for exercising in) simply because I can't afford any jerseys. I already had these tops from going to yoga and the gym, and so I chose to spend my money on good cycling shorts instead! Sometimes it makes me kind of self-conscious because maybe I look less serious about cycling.. As for cycling in a bra, I wouldn't be comfortable doing that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by snapdragen View Post
    I think I understand, it's more about the behavior than the clothing.
    I really agree with this...but please realize that what looks prudent standing up may look very different "in the drops" and if this matters to you, it's another issue to consider.
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    ah, so it wasn't her lack of clothing, it was the way she was acting. You have every right to be indignant about that, but, where I come from we have people who ride in the nude... okay, with body paint... and I don't think they're being inappropriate...
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    I just feel sorry for her if she crashes, because where there isn't fabric there will no be skin anymore. I also don't understand how short cycling shorts can be comfortable. The chafing on inner-thighs would be unpleasant to me, I like my shorts to be about 2/3 down my thighs.

    This being said, I wouldn't be too bothered if she was riding with me, that's really her problem. If she was riding in my club and there was a club uniform, matters would be different.

    As for someone pushing your bum from behind: I don't think it's construed as groping within the cycling world, and I've seen men do it to each other. But if you don't want the person to do that, just say "no thanks."

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    I can't control what others do or wear, I can only be responsible for myself in such situations. If they want to show lots of skin or act provocatively or even make fools of themselves, that's their business --unless they are doing something directly harmful to me (apart from simply evoking my personal disapproval).

    As to a guy grabbing/patting my behind to 'give me a boost'- well i'd let him know loud and clear in front of everyone that that was totally inappropriate.
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    I like my thigh-length PI cycling shorts, too, but I'm not crazy about the tan line. That would be my main motivation for getting shorter shorts. Ah, vanity.

    I also wear tank tops for riding. I picked them up at Footlocker for $5 each. Can't beat that. They're long, loose, light cotton that dries quickly and are really comfortable to ride in. I do wear sports bras underneath. It would have to be really, really hot for me to ride in anything less.

    I've got a couple of sleeveless jerseys, too, but they're short and I feel like my waistline is exposed when I ride in them. I'm not quite that much of an exhibitionist.

    As for that woman's behavior, well, props to her obviously high self-esteem, but yeah, if she crashes, I pity her the road rash. Was it a "Woman in Red" kind of thing, where she wasn't aware that she was putting on that kind of display, or was she luxuriating in the attention that her hotness was drawing? Some women are just more exhibitionistic. (Is that a word?) Others are focused on the athleticism. I have to admit to flexing a bit more myself when my husband is around. He appreciates the view, and I appreciate his appreciation, you know?

    As for the guy grabbing your butt while riding, did you really need a boost up a hill? I would have been shocked, too, believe me. I'm not experienced at all in group rides, though. I've never seen anyone, male or female, "boost" anyone like that. Maybe it was perfectly innocent.

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    i have been boosted too, but the guy who did it didn't touch me, he pushed my bike! it was hilarious. Obviously, he hadn't gotten too close to me, as I couldn't feel it..
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    Quote Originally Posted by channlluv View Post
    if she crashes, I pity her the road rash
    I think there's a misperception on the protection that clothes provide from road rash.

    Some of my worst road rash was under my unripped clothes - the only difference between the exposed skin and the unexposed was the road grit.

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    I wear a lot of sleeveless now that it's finally hotter out. Mostly, my sleeveless are Terry Eurohalters, which come up high in the front, and don't show any stomach. But, my arms, shoulders ,etc are very bare. I have 2 regular sleeveless jerseys, which I wear, but I like the Eurohalters better because no bra is needed (there's a built in shelf bra). Believe me, no one is looking at my, ah, chest area!
    I have one new Descente halter which is short and tight. I look fine in it, but some might think someone my age shouldn't wear it. My shorts are longer (right above the knee) for my Bellas; the new S Pros are shorter, but, what I would call average length. There's some advantage to being short here.
    If some strange guy tried to push me by touching my body, I would scream bloody murder. I've never had anyone do anything remotely like that. I have had men act "interested," when I go on my group rides, which are mostly people my age, but they are harmless and nice. I always mention my DH, if they don't know I'm married.
    I am debating whether to wear the bra top I bought for running tomorrow. It's hot out and I really am feeling it. Frankly, my stomach looks better than some of the younger girls I've seen running in bra tops. I wear longer shorts when I run, so I just might go for it. Can't be any worse than some of the shirtless men I see running!

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    Even when it's 90 degrees F with 100% humidity, I wear short sleeved jerseys ..or as described elsewhere, I've worn loose long sleeves.

    And some shorts have a short inseam. Others do not.

    I've never been tempted to wear tank top or go sleeveless, while cycling (though I will off-bike or go sleeveless), it's primarily for skin protection across other unexposed areas.

    I just feel sorry to see women around my age, whose skin around their chest, etc....is darkened and hardened already. My lower leg skin does have a icthomyosis...where the skin has become dried and shiny over the years. Despite slathering on 50 SPF sunscreen/block. So I know...

    After seeing dermatologist a few wks. ago who confirmed for now, I don't have anything malignant, but still need to take care, I have less incentive to show more skin while cycling.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Silver View Post
    I think there's a misperception on the protection that clothes provide from road rash.

    Some of my worst road rash was under my unripped clothes - the only difference between the exposed skin and the unexposed was the road grit.

    Sorry to hijack...
    My experience is that my lycra has definitely protected me from road rash. That's why the scars on my knees and elbows are so much worse than the ones on my shoulders. And that is why racing used to require the shoulders to be covered - don't know if that's still the case.

    Yesterday I rode with two women in sleeveless jerseys. I was in a long-sleeved jersey and wishing I'd worn a wool base layer and knee warmers. Whatever! Different people have different tolerance for cold. It's not my business what they wear. If it's not an event with equipment requirements, it's no one else's business, either.

    On the boosting: I know a guy who'll boost his wife. Never seen it around here except for that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by snapdragen View Post

    Wear what you're comfortable in, ignore the rest. Me? Right now I'd be comfortable in a burka....
    LOL, snap!

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    I live in Hawaii, where shortish shorts and tanks are common on women. I usually wear a short sleeve jersey for sun protection. Gotta get me a pair of Coolwings.

    Although uncommon, you see the occasional triathlete training in a triathlon-specific bathing suit, typically when she's gotten something new and wants to test it out before a race.

    The behavior accompanying the outfit is what makes it or breaks it. While I've seen some skimpy clothing, the women can simply hammer and aren't dolled up or putting on a show while applying sunscreen so I think nothing of it.
    Last edited by ilima; 07-19-2009 at 02:53 PM.

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    I do not like jerseys when it is really hot out so I wear a singlet. This has spawned a few questions about whether I am a triathlete because I guess they look like tri tops but they are not revealing at all in the front.

    For example: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...TC39C&v=glance

    Another reason I like them is the tan line. The shorts tan line is bad enough, I dont want the tan line across my biceps.

    I got road rash through both my top and my shorts so I dont think there any extra protection to warrant short sleeves. Neither one even had a pull. In fact I cant tell now which one of my 3 pairs of Shebeest are the ones I crashed in. But I had me some road rash up my thigh and hip and across my shoulder blades where I had clothing.

    I have had some guys come up and touch my lower back when they wanted to chat and I was not real keen on it but when I got a push up a tough hill I was all about appreciating the help. I guess it depends on the circumstance for me.
    Last edited by arielmoon; 07-20-2009 at 04:38 AM.

 

 

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