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    Quote Originally Posted by shootingstar View Post
    I mean world-wide there were many farmers working many hrs. under hot sun/heat, surely their diets did not contain alot more salt than what we have today in our meals (if we blissfully ignore the sodium hidden in our food).
    Actually they may very well have been consuming more salt than you'd expect given the lack of what we'd consider "processed" foods back then.. but salt is a preservative, and in the days before electricity thus refrigeration were widely available, most animal meats were cured with salt so they wouldn't go bad.

    I would think though, that if your diet is not already excessively high in sodium, craving salt or salty foods is probably a good indicator that your body needs more.

    What I've found interesting personally.. is that if I'm not salt deficient, some energy drinks and all electrolyte mixes taste VERY salty... almost to the point of being undrinkable. If I really need the salt though, it's like I can't even taste it, they all seem almost sickly sweet (even the ones with no carbs/sweeteners, like nuun). I usually notice the dizziness/vertigo and nausea that go along with it before I notice the taste thing though... but it has snuck up on me on occasion.

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    On the history of salt, Mark Kurlansky's book Salt: A World History is a fascinating read. Nowadays salt is so plentiful in the developed world that we pour it all over our roads, and we've forgotten that there was a time when things were different. But the history lingers in place names like Salina, Saltillo, anything with "Lick" in it, etc. Until recently, human history was a quest for salt as much as it was a quest for food and water - mammals, and especially mammals that cool ourselves by sweating, need all three to survive. Think about how animals congregate around exposed salt licks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sarahspins View Post
    Actually they may very well have been consuming more salt than you'd expect given the lack of what we'd consider "processed" foods back then.. but salt is a preservative, and in the days before electricity thus refrigeration were widely available, most animal meats were cured with salt so they wouldn't go bad.

    I would think though, that if your diet is not already excessively high in sodium, craving salt or salty foods is probably a good indicator that your body needs more.
    Good point that salt ages ago was more of a preservative whereas now, it's much more a taste factor, even to induce the palate to want more of the food..for both salty /savoury food and sweet food, where salt is added abit to enhance sweeteness.

    Yes, salt was a treasured ages ago like Oak reminded us.

    Already based on what I eat daily, probably enough salt already. We have this wonderful blue cheese that is aging strong..and seems to becoming saltier as the weeks march on. So salty, that one can only have slice of a fingertip sliver size to enjoy.

    My mother was diagnosed for hypertension 15 yrs. ago and since then, her home cooking has severely cut down on salt/sodium. She was instructed by her doctor and also takes medication.
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    new strategy, stripping the links out of the spam? (not the first time I've noticed this week, but this is probably the most blatant)

    Personally I'd rather have the messages removed entirely... but if this is automated and less work for the mods, then hear, hear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OakLeaf View Post
    new strategy, stripping the links out of the spam? (not the first time I've noticed this week, but this is probably the most blatant)

    Personally I'd rather have the messages removed entirely... but if this is automated and less work for the mods, then hear, hear.
    huh?? what??

    Anyway, we excrete salt at our individual rate so guidelines are just guidelines. But definitly learn to listen to your body. I try to stay on low salt diet, well, cause Japanese diet is so high in salt. Now the other day, I had a hunkering for anchovies packed in oil. The uber salty kind. popped open a can and ate the whole thing in one sitting, right in the kitchen no less. The strangest thing was geeze, TJ's anchovies aren't salted. I opened another can about a week later and it tasted SALTY. Listen to your body. My helmet strap will get caked with minerals from my sweat. and I can get a mineral deposit line on my jersey after a long hot ride.

    Low on salt and I get cramps, nausea and chills. Drink a sport drink and if it taste sweet get more salt into your system. If it tastes salty then you just dehydrated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smilingcat View Post
    huh?? what??
    ha I guess the mods listened to me and pulled the message entirely.

    There were a series of messages that went up in the last couple of days that were obviously spam, but had had the links stripped out.

    Anyway, gone now. Thanks mods.
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    Quote Originally Posted by smilingcat View Post
    Drink a sport drink and if it taste sweet get more salt into your system. If it tastes salty then you just dehydrated.
    I notice this more with something like nuun than with drinks containing sugar (all of those taste sickly sweet since I'm not used to drinking anything with sugar).. but if I need the salt, nuun tastes a little sweet. If I don't need the extra electrolytes, I almost can't stand it because it tastes like drinking flavored salt water... gross

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    Hm, I was just thinking about this today. I'm training for another 2 day breast cancer walk and last year I'm pretty sure I became hyponatremic or at least had a problem with salt/electrolyte loss. It made me feel really sick and I don't want to feel that again so I've been trying to think of what to do this year.

    Anyway I went for about a 5 mile hike/walk up Mont Royal park and took some nuun in my water this time. It tasted pretty good, definitely not salty. But by the time I'd come back home all I could think about was wanting something really salty and right now!

    I also have low blood pressure and I tend to crave salt a lot so I just kind of go with it. It is kind of amazing to think back at how precious a commodity salt used to be and how prevalent it is now.
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    shootingstar had posted some links to the "too much salt" article.

    I think one of the trick manufacturers use to get you to buy their pre-pkg'ed food is to layer with fat, salt, and sugar to make it yummy. Its not the "umai" yumminess but people have been so conditioned to think fat, salt, and sugar is yummy (blach for me).

    All pre-pkg'ed food taste like it's been soaked in the dead sea for few days with all that salt. There is no real flavor except for the fat, sweet, and salty taste. Besides, salt, fat and even sugar is cheap compared to real flavoring, so the manufacturer of the pre-pkg'ed food can bigger their money.

    If you want to consume less salt, stop eating all that frozen food. and start cooking a home.

 

 

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