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  1. #1
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    Is this really how you're supposed to commute?

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    I saw this video posted on the commuting board of another forum and was just Is this really how people commute or ride their bikes in the city? I do not ride in a city, only on suburban/rural roads so I don't have any experience with city biking (and, from the looks of this, I don't want any).

    I don't think this guy is really behaving like someone who is obeying the rules of the road here. But I betcha he expects to be treated like a car, right? Do people really consider riding up the street between stopped cars and parked cars (or between stopped cars and the median where there isn't room for a car, but is room for a bike) to be following the rules of the road? Around here, if a motorcyclist did this, he'd get ticketed. It's dangerous and illegal. So why is it ok for a bicyclist to do it? And riding on the double yellow lines the way this guy does? WTF?

    Please tell me this isn't the norm. Please?
    "A bicycle does get you there and more. And there is always the thin edge of danger to keep you alert and comfortably apprehensive. Dogs become dogs again and snap at your raincoat; potholes become personal. And getting there is all the fun."

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    I don't ride like that in the city. It does seem dangerous (especially riding on the yellow line) because cars that don't see you can turn into you.

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    I would stay to the right, and I would stop for red lights, but I certainly would have no problem going up to the front of the line of cars.

    Of course, I would have stopped at Cafe du Monde for beignets, too. yum.

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    Surely you're not asking this question seriously.

    I didn't watch the whole thing, but I think this guy is a moron and he's intentionally doing things to annoy motorists. I see others like him - but not quite as bad - most days of the week. But the vast majority of cyclists around here are much more respectful of traffic rules (although stop signs are pretty universally ignored).

    The part that bothers me most is when there are pedestrians crossing at a crosswalk, cars have the decency to stop (for once) and a cyclist just goes through. Issh!

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    I see people commute like this but it's dangerous and may be illegal depending on where you are. You're right... it's hard for cars to see you... If they expect a bicyclist at all, they're certainly not expecting them from the left. All it takes is someone on the cell phone forgetting to head check before turning. As far as going up to the line, I only do it if it looks like there's enough space to do so. I'm not going to trouble myself only to get passed by the same cars just past the intersection, which can be tricky if it's a narrow road and annoying to drivers.

    I guess my rule of thumb is to be as courteous as possible, especially since I'm sure I see many of the same drivers during my daily commute. If I'm predictable and polite, they will hopefully treat me the same.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grog View Post
    Surely you're not asking this question seriously.

    I didn't watch the whole thing, but I think this guy is a moron and he's intentionally doing things to annoy motorists. I see others like him - but not quite as bad - most days of the week. But the vast majority of cyclists around here are much more respectful of traffic rules (although stop signs are pretty universally ignored).

    The part that bothers me most is when there are pedestrians crossing at a crosswalk, cars have the decency to stop (for once) and a cyclist just goes through. Issh!
    I was asking seriously because I was really hoping it wasn't the case. As I said, I don't have any experience with city cycling, so I wasn't sure. Good to know he's just a moron.

    Oh, and another reason I asked was because he was getting some people telling him what a great ride he had on the other forum. And they seemed serious.
    "A bicycle does get you there and more. And there is always the thin edge of danger to keep you alert and comfortably apprehensive. Dogs become dogs again and snap at your raincoat; potholes become personal. And getting there is all the fun."

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    Just thought I'd let you guys know that when that idiot rode through what looked like water (while passing the car on the right) he was actually riding through horse pee! Serves him right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FlyingScot View Post
    Just thought I'd let you guys know that when that idiot rode through what looked like water (while passing the car on the right) he was actually riding through horse pee! Serves him right.
    Hahaha
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    Quote Originally Posted by Heifzilla View Post
    I was asking seriously because I was really hoping it wasn't the case. As I said, I don't have any experience with city cycling, so I wasn't sure. Good to know he's just a moron.
    Sorry if my question was a bit harsh.

    I must say that he is just a moron, but it's important to remember that there are people like him on the road. Some ride bikes, and quite a few drive cars, too. And so one has to plan for that when riding, whether in town or on the country side.

    I must say though that passing on the right is not a good idea either. If there is a lot of room and/or a bike lane, then fine, move to the front. However, if there isn't, it's a pretty dangerous thing to do, even though it looks so easy and natural on the bike. I know more than one person who was doored from someone getting off the passenger side of a car. There is also the classic "parking on the cyclist" and the typical "right hook." http://www.bicyclesafe.com/ says it all.

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    this guy is probably a 20 something. He also probably would be a cr@ppy driver in a car or a motorcycle. No, none of us ride like that.

    and it's not the norm even among young men with bicycles.
    You're right it's more correct to pass on the left but it's illegal to pass where it is not safe. and into oncoming traffic is not safe.
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    I see quite a few cyclists like him -- and quite a few who are worse. It's just one more thing to watch out for.

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    It actually ISN'T illegal everywhere for bikers (motor and/or cycle) to split lanes.
    (the red lights he ran however, most definitely illegal).

    Dangerous and stupid, well, I won't disagree with you on those counts, personally. Though I will pass on the right hand side if conditions warrant (normally only if I have a bike lane, but not always).

    This particular video is pretty tame compared to some of the bike messenger videos I've seen.

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    Riding on the passenger side of cars as he does is especially stupid.

    I have committed this year to ride more mindfully and courteously. I am not sure what brought on this bout of good bike citizenship. I'd like to say it's "maturity", but I was 47 last year, which is pretty mature by age standards alone. I think I am just happier. Which makes me less likely to want to take out my frustrations by riding really fast, no matter where I am.

    A frustration of city living is that it's hard to find a good stretch of pavement where I can just pour it on and ride as hard as I want. Not that I'm any speed demon, really, but flying on the bike is a great joy. Ne'er the less, this year I vow to respect more rules and ride as if the cars and pedestrians have rights. I sound like I've been a complete jerk in the past, which isn't true. But I've done things which, were I the one in the car, and not the one riding the bike,would have really pissed me off. So I vow to ride with the intent of not pissing off drivers or pedestrians.

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    hey Lise! hit the pavement before 6am I'll bet you'll find plenty of city pavement
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    I can't imagine riding in Chicago-- and I live in Downtown St. Louis! It's kind of like 28 Days Later here though... minus the zombies. I work out in the suburbs so I'm never around to see it when it's busy during the weekdays. But, man! When I ride out from my building at 5:30 AM the roads are mine! Allll mine

    It's fantastic. In fact... that reminds me. I should get some sleep before riding to work tomorrow
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