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    I have a 16 yo daughter who thinks that celebrity who beat up his girlfriend deserves to be strung up my his toe nails and maimed. (Or at least put away for a long time). But I think a lot of the girls and boys right now are basing their ideas on the music of the times. I know each older generation says this of the younger, but seriously - have you listened to some of the rap music out there? It's horrid! Not all of it, of course, but enough is that it's not that surprising to me that girls think it's okay, too.
    Christine
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    I really object to the idea that today's music is any worse than that of any other generation - or that art feeds violence more than violence informs art.

    It's true that each generation successively pushes the envelope of what words are acceptable, not just in song lyrics but in conversation.

    But as far as the ideas, how about, just for starters, Tom Jones' "She's a Lady"? The Rolling Stones' "Under My Thumb"?

    Blaming music for sexual violence is no better than blaming the economy, blaming substance abuse, blaming the availability of weapons, or blaming the victim. The perp ALWAYS has a choice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OakLeaf View Post
    I really object to the idea that today's music is any worse than that of any other generation - or that art feeds violence more than violence informs art.

    It's true that each generation successively pushes the envelope of what words are acceptable, not just in song lyrics but in conversation.

    But as far as the ideas, how about, just for starters, Tom Jones' "She's a Lady"? The Rolling Stones' "Under My Thumb"?

    Blaming music for sexual violence is no better than blaming the economy, blaming substance abuse, blaming the availability of weapons, or blaming the victim. The perp ALWAYS has a choice.
    I see your point. I was thinking of some of the heinous rap music I've heard (my step son was into some really brutal rap). But, when I think back to some of the punk, or hard rock out there - it's no different - and the same segment of society listen to it. My apologies. I stand corrected.
    Christine
    Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away.

    Cycle! It's Good for the Wattle; it's good for the can!

 

 

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