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  1. #1
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    Quote Originally Posted by Catriona View Post
    Not very insightful given they had one woman and she didn't really have a wsd body.

    They couldn't have a panel of women?
    Where would they find them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BleeckerSt_Girl View Post
    Where would they find them?

    True. They're probably all out shopping or getting their hair & nails done.

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    In the Women's section of this months Bicycling mag is a pretty cool story about a women that went to a Women's Bicycling camp/training in Asheville, NC. I thought it was funny and well written -- there were definitely parts of it that I could relate to, especially when she gets dropped from their ride
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    Quote Originally Posted by tctrek View Post
    In the Women's section of this months Bicycling mag is a pretty cool story about a women that went to a Women's Bicycling camp/training in Asheville, NC. I thought it was funny and well written -- there were definitely parts of it that I could relate to, especially when she gets dropped from their ride
    I enjoyed the story about the women's cycling retreat too! I guess I wish this section had more stories and less products and ads. The section after that one on nutrition was interesting especially the part about "peeing away your muscles after age 40" (sorry, I am straying from subject here)

    And by the way, I am built like a box too!

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    My issue came late in the mail too. I just ripped the package open last night. Thought the same thing... hmm, wonder if everyone gets this special gold sticker on the front. I just got as far as reading about the bikes. Close to my new ride is in there for review. I was doing ok on the article until the notion that "women have long legs and short torsos" came up. Umm, that would NOT be me (shorty legs, long torso--can fit unisex). Guess I'm technically built like a man then. OH... I kinda like the pink cuz it shows dirt really well when you mtb in it and play in the mud. I dunno why my mother stopped putting me in dresses as a young girl.
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    Not everyone is built the same. A lot of us DO have long legs and short torsos. WSD has been a wonderful thing for some of us. I enjoyed the article about the retreats too, and the comparison between WSD and other versions of bikes.
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    I will ask this question again:

    Why is it automatically assumed that if you are athletic, you don't like certain things that are associated with being "girly"? To me, that is another version of stereotyping.
    I like getting dirty, working hard, sweating, and all that. I also like manicures, make up, and wearing dresses.
    No one would see me as a "frilly" type, but, come on everyone. The point here is that Bicycling should make their "woman's" section better/different. I haven't seen the section, since our subscription is in my husband's name, but let's try to make our complaining more focused on that, rather than putting down those of us who might like some of these things. You can't assume that women who are "out getting a manicure" would not be interested in buying a bike or be great riders, any more than you can assume someone who is tall is a basketball star. Just my humble thoughts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miranda View Post
    My issue came late in the mail too. I just ripped the package open last night. Thought the same thing... hmm, wonder if everyone gets this special gold sticker on the front. I just got as far as reading about the bikes. Close to my new ride is in there for review. I was doing ok on the article until the notion that "women have long legs and short torsos" came up. Umm, that would NOT be me (shorty legs, long torso--can fit unisex). Guess I'm technically built like a man then. OH... I kinda like the pink cuz it shows dirt really well when you mtb in it and play in the mud. I dunno why my mother stopped putting me in dresses as a young girl.
    I'm a short legged, long torso'd, wiiiiiiiiiide hipped chick. So, what the heck does that make me?? I also love HOT pink. Not pastel. I mean screaming in your face HOT PINK
    "A bicycle does get you there and more. And there is always the thin edge of danger to keep you alert and comfortably apprehensive. Dogs become dogs again and snap at your raincoat; potholes become personal. And getting there is all the fun."

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    Quote Originally Posted by tctrek View Post
    In the Women's section of this months Bicycling mag is a pretty cool story about a women that went to a Women's Bicycling camp/training in Asheville, NC. I thought it was funny and well written -- there were definitely parts of it that I could relate to, especially when she gets dropped from their ride
    Yeah, but, that was pretty much it except for the ads and products, not really anything else. I was disappointed. Except I have to pull out the add for the WSD Pinerrello---I pretty much lust after that bike. If I could get the gal out of the picture I would hang it up.

    Otherwise, nothing special about the women's special!
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    Maybe I feel like being "provocative" today, but I get the sense that a lot of posters feel you can't be a serious cyclist if you ride a WSD bike. Really?
    Let me state that I don't ride a WSD bike. I let myself get talked into buying something else. No one else's fault but my own. I will give the shop owner credit for exchanging the frame of the original bike I bought for an x-small frame in a different model of the same make, 2 years later. I know it involved him realizing that I was going to blab all over town about what cr*ppy service he gave me, after dropping some serious cash for my bike. At the time I made the switch, I had to do all my own research to solve my reach/brake problem. Thanks to everyone at TE, I am now able to ride in the drops (well, other than my own fear going down steep hills!). I went out and bought a new bar at another shop and also had them order me short reach brifters. Why should I have to have done this? If he had shown me a bike that came with some of the things I needed, I would have been better off. But, no, he had to push the Italian frames that he can make a big profit on.
    I had 2 WSD bikes before this. Yes, they had 650 wheels, but, I didn't care. I am not a racer, but I am someone whose lifestyle revolves around cycling, and I am serious about it. Serious to have fun, that is. So, when a magazine is showing WSD bikes, I am interested, even though I won't be buying another road bike for a long time.
    My mountain bike is not WSD and again, it is too big for me. Not terrible, but definitely could have gone smaller. My around town bike, a Jamis, is the best fitting bike I have. It's a WSD flat bar road bike that is made for a short person! Funny, it is also the cheapest of the 3. Of course, everyone is entitled to his/her opinions, and of course, not all women are built for a WSD bike. But, again, let's not make assumptions about what anyone needs. I just wish I could go into a shop and be listened to. You can bet the LBS owner where I bought my bike listens to me now, but I had to be somewhat threatening to get there!

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    Crankin, I don't think people are saying you can't be a serious cyclist or racer on a WSD bike - I think it's the problem that the top of the line wsd bike by one brand is usually not as nice a bike as the top of the line men's bike. That was one of the comparison's in the special women's section... I think it was the men's trek vs. the women's... they had to swap the wheels and something else on the women's bike to make it comparable....

    As for myself - I don't have a wsd and would do very badly on one, because I don't have a wsd body... However, my boyfriend would do great on a wsd, 'cause he's got a wsd body - 33" inseam on a 5'7-5'8 body.

    Bike manufacturer's should just offer short vs. long torso versions of their bikes, instead of mens vs women's wsds with pink highlights somehow. Or baby blue.

    Short reach brifters & shorter cranks should be standard on smaller frames whether or not they're wsd.... And you wouldn't necessarily have gotten short reach ones with a wsd, because a lot of them really aren't that well thought out (they're not reading team estrogen, apparently).

    I usually just buy a bike knowing that I'm going to eventually replace the saddle, cranks, handlebars, etc. - but a lot of people on here would argue that's why you should get a bike fitting by a good bike person when buying your bike at a lbs, so they'll swap all this stuff out and dial it in for you.

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    I actually think that by the magazine adding a women's section, it is an indication that bike manufacturers are in fact listening and realize that there is a market out there for serious women cyclist. I know some of you don't think you need women specific products, but I am one (maybe the minority) that really likes that ever so slight touch of pink on my all black bike and though I probably could have fit on a men's frame just fine, I liked the women specific design, both the way it looks and feels. My only complaint about the women's section in that magazine is that I wish it would have had more editorial content, but I am still glad they had included it.

 

 

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