Fabris softener!

**sfa** · 03-16-2009, 07:59 AM

You can always use vinegar in the rinse cycle instead. It works fairly well as a fabric softener. Of course, it's made from rotted fruits and grains.

Sarah

**sgtiger** · 03-16-2009, 08:20 AM

If that grosses you out, I recommend you not eat jello and anything that contains gelatin.

**Karma007** · 03-16-2009, 08:34 AM

Ew! I'm already a non-gelatin eater. I was not aware of this fabric softener issue. I'm off to check labels...

**HoosierGiant** · 03-16-2009, 11:19 AM

Originally Posted by sgtiger

If that grosses you out, I recommend you not eat jello and anything that contains gelatin.

Jell-O, most marshmallows, frosted Pop-tarts, most brands of yogurt, Gummi-worms, most brands of jelly beans, conversation hearts for Valentine's Day... the list goes on and on. (Can't you tell we love our sweets?!) Youngest daughter was 9 when she made the switch to vegetarian eating, and she's gotten stricter over the last two years. Gelatin is a HUGE no-no for her. She requested a copy of Animal Ingredients A to Z for Christmas, and it's become her companion on trips to the grocery.

**Tri Girl** · 03-16-2009, 01:02 PM

I'm afraid the less I know about this topic, the better. I've already stopped eating meat for the most part because of guilt over using animals (but occasionally I'll crave it and I give in, I just do some penance to make up for it). If I started digging deeper I'd have to drasitically change my diet in order to not feel guilty. I'm changing one small step at a time...

TriGirl ***who is not looking into this matter further***

**alpinerabbit** · 03-16-2009, 01:35 PM

Oh, now that my head is clear - there's one very easy way around the horse goo problem: I do not use fabric softener.

I don't even use a drier (or is it a dryer?).

I love how towels get all hard, it's like free loofah in the morning - invigorating.

**ny biker** · 03-16-2009, 05:42 PM

Just noticed this when I was grocery shopping tonight - Seventh Generation now makes fabric softener dryer sheets. They use plant-based ingredients.

**LilBolt** · 03-16-2009, 08:00 PM

Aside from the animal matter, fabric softener is the mortal enemy of most of the technical fabrics that our fine (aka pricey) performance outerwear (and some innerwear) is made of. I do use Method or Seventh Generation for the sheets & towels.

**Brandi** · 03-23-2009, 09:44 AM

Originally Posted by ny biker

Just noticed this when I was grocery shopping tonight - Seventh Generation now makes fabric softener dryer sheets. They use plant-based ingredients.

I will be going the vegan route!

**shootingstar** · 03-16-2009, 08:09 PM

Originally Posted by HoosierGiant

Jell-O, most marshmallows, frosted Pop-tarts, most brands of yogurt, Gummi-worms, most brands of jelly beans, conversation hearts for Valentine's Day... the list goes on and on. (Can't you tell we love our sweets?!) Youngest daughter was 9 when she made the switch to vegetarian eating, and she's gotten stricter over the last two years. Gelatin is a HUGE no-no for her. She requested a copy of Animal Ingredients A to Z for Christmas, and it's become her companion on trips to the grocery.

Perhaps your daughter needs to reconsider agar-agar. It's gelatin derived from seaweed. Japanese have used it for centuries.

I have nothing else to contribute to this fabric softener hot topic. I've never used any fabric softener in my life. Do I plan to? No need.

**papaver** · 03-17-2009, 12:18 AM

Originally Posted by shootingstar

Perhaps your daughter needs to reconsider agar-agar. It's gelatin derived from seaweed. Japanese have used it for centuries.

I have nothing else to contribute to this fabric softener hot topic. I've never used any fabric softener in my life. Do I plan to? No need.

and BTW fabric softener is an abosulute no go for cycling gear. Never use it to wash your jersey's and shorts.

**HoosierGiant** · 03-17-2009, 06:36 AM

Originally Posted by shootingstar

Perhaps your daughter needs to reconsider agar-agar. It's gelatin derived from seaweed. Japanese have used it for centuries.

Agar... carrageenan... welcome to the world of polysaccharides! She's giving us all quite an education!

**Karma007** · 03-17-2009, 07:25 AM

Some ethnic markets make a jello-ish dessert with agar agar, and Whole Foods carries a gelatin free one as well. I'm vegan and can reccomend some cookbooks, if you're interested. Anything by Isa Moskowitz (Vegan with a Vengence AND Vegan Cupcakes Take OVer The World are faves) or the Vegan Lunchbox (Jennifer McCann) . They're all easy to read, easy to make, and not too preachy.

**HoosierGiant** · 03-17-2009, 07:34 AM

Originally Posted by tofu

Some ethnic markets make a jello-ish dessert with agar agar, and Whole Foods carries a gelatin free one as well. I'm vegan and can reccomend some cookbooks, if you're interested. Anything by Isa Moskowitz (Vegan with a Vengence AND Vegan Cupcakes Take OVer The World are faves) or the Vegan Lunchbox (Jennifer McCann) . They're all easy to read, easy to make, and not too preachy.

Thanks a million!!!

**gnarwhal** · 03-17-2009, 08:12 AM

Originally Posted by tofu

Some ethnic markets make a jello-ish dessert with agar agar, and Whole Foods carries a gelatin free one as well. I'm vegan and can reccomend some cookbooks, if you're interested. Anything by Isa Moskowitz (Vegan with a Vengence AND Vegan Cupcakes Take OVer The World are faves) or the Vegan Lunchbox (Jennifer McCann) . They're all easy to read, easy to make, and not too preachy.

YAY! Another Vegan cyclist who loves Isa! I have VwaV on my wishlist but people keep buying me Veganomicon...i have 3 copies now.

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