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    Well, you can also go for synthetic ingredients.
    These are petrol based. Petrol is dead dinosaurs. Go figure.

    Your horse tallow will have been purified, distilled, and transfigured so that there's no dead stuff in there...

    Do you use lipstick? can you say lice?

    And you do wear leather shoes, don't you? I'm just saying... not trying to make fun of ya.
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    You can always use vinegar in the rinse cycle instead. It works fairly well as a fabric softener. Of course, it's made from rotted fruits and grains.

    Sarah

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    If that grosses you out, I recommend you not eat jello and anything that contains gelatin.
    Everything in moderation, including moderation.

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    Ew! I'm already a non-gelatin eater. I was not aware of this fabric softener issue. I'm off to check labels...
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    Quote Originally Posted by sgtiger View Post
    If that grosses you out, I recommend you not eat jello and anything that contains gelatin.
    Jell-O, most marshmallows, frosted Pop-tarts, most brands of yogurt, Gummi-worms, most brands of jelly beans, conversation hearts for Valentine's Day... the list goes on and on. (Can't you tell we love our sweets?!) Youngest daughter was 9 when she made the switch to vegetarian eating, and she's gotten stricter over the last two years. Gelatin is a HUGE no-no for her. She requested a copy of Animal Ingredients A to Z for Christmas, and it's become her companion on trips to the grocery.
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    I'm afraid the less I know about this topic, the better. I've already stopped eating meat for the most part because of guilt over using animals (but occasionally I'll crave it and I give in, I just do some penance to make up for it). If I started digging deeper I'd have to drasitically change my diet in order to not feel guilty. I'm changing one small step at a time...

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    Oh, now that my head is clear - there's one very easy way around the horse goo problem: I do not use fabric softener.

    I don't even use a drier (or is it a dryer?).

    I love how towels get all hard, it's like free loofah in the morning - invigorating.
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    Just noticed this when I was grocery shopping tonight - Seventh Generation now makes fabric softener dryer sheets. They use plant-based ingredients.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoosierGiant View Post
    Jell-O, most marshmallows, frosted Pop-tarts, most brands of yogurt, Gummi-worms, most brands of jelly beans, conversation hearts for Valentine's Day... the list goes on and on. (Can't you tell we love our sweets?!) Youngest daughter was 9 when she made the switch to vegetarian eating, and she's gotten stricter over the last two years. Gelatin is a HUGE no-no for her. She requested a copy of Animal Ingredients A to Z for Christmas, and it's become her companion on trips to the grocery.
    Perhaps your daughter needs to reconsider agar-agar. It's gelatin derived from seaweed. Japanese have used it for centuries.

    I have nothing else to contribute to this fabric softener hot topic. I've never used any fabric softener in my life. Do I plan to? No need.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shootingstar View Post
    Perhaps your daughter needs to reconsider agar-agar. It's gelatin derived from seaweed. Japanese have used it for centuries.

    I have nothing else to contribute to this fabric softener hot topic. I've never used any fabric softener in my life. Do I plan to? No need.
    and BTW fabric softener is an abosulute no go for cycling gear. Never use it to wash your jersey's and shorts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shootingstar View Post
    Perhaps your daughter needs to reconsider agar-agar. It's gelatin derived from seaweed. Japanese have used it for centuries.
    Agar... carrageenan... welcome to the world of polysaccharides! She's giving us all quite an education!
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    Some ethnic markets make a jello-ish dessert with agar agar, and Whole Foods carries a gelatin free one as well. I'm vegan and can reccomend some cookbooks, if you're interested. Anything by Isa Moskowitz (Vegan with a Vengence AND Vegan Cupcakes Take OVer The World are faves) or the Vegan Lunchbox (Jennifer McCann) . They're all easy to read, easy to make, and not too preachy.
    Be yourself, to the extreme!

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    Quote Originally Posted by alpinerabbit View Post
    Well, you can also go for synthetic ingredients.
    These are petrol based. Petrol is dead dinosaurs. Go figure.

    Your horse tallow will have been purified, distilled, and transfigured so that there's no dead stuff in there...

    Do you use lipstick? can you say lice?

    And you do wear leather shoes, don't you? I'm just saying... not trying to make fun of ya.
    I use vegan lip stuff as well as makeup. i don't have many leather things actually. I am just slightly bothered by using it on stuff I rub oe wear on my body. You can make fun of me! I am rubber!
    Blessed are the flexible, for they shall not be bent out of shape.
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