Wow. I love getting to know people over the course of such an elaborate discussion!! Yet another reason I love TE!!!

One point: whether or not it was commercial, whether or not it was OK or not, etc etc etc. At the heart of the matter if I am seriously shopping for a bike I am going to be all over roadbikereview, ebay, craigslist, etc. Its just overkill to list two places at once. Really.