I have nothing constructive to add here except that it seems panties have been wadded and knickers have been twisted.
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I have nothing constructive to add here except that it seems panties have been wadded and knickers have been twisted.
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Actually, SadieKate, they do have my phone number. I asked them to call me regarding this issue.
I've vented enough. Thanks for everyone's support.
... but it seems like this is what the internet is all about: democracy in action. She is exercising her voice and as long as TE doesn't start pulling her posts, it seems she is welcome to post whatever she likes in an effort to get to the bottom of why her FS posts are being pulled. Perhaps she is really trying to find who is 'compliaining' about her posts and explain to that individual that she is not selling from a store front. It's best to keep private matters private, but blogs and facebook and the internet in general are all about vomiting private matters for the world to see. She and everyone else in the thread have been respectful of both TE and the other posters (rare on the internet), and it seems like a fairly acceptable way to a) get the admin to reply to her concerns b) assure whomever is complaining about her FS listings that she isn't selling from a store front. Moreover, the suggestions here that she have her friends post their own FS items and TE charge for FS listings are not bad ones. ....just my unsolicited 2cents![]()
Maybe I'm nuts, but this does sound commercial to me:
http://forums.teamestrogen.com/showp...48&postcount=7
I think those friends should all be selling off their own used bikes if they want to sell them here.
If you enjoy the TE forums aside from the 'for sale' ads issue, then you should stay even if you wind up being asked to stop selling other people's stuff here. I'm sure no one wants to see you leave altogether. Like most of us here, you can continue to contribute constructive and helpful input in the forum even without selling things.
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I think it's unfair to pull that post out of the context of it's thread. The OP in that thread was expressing frustration at selling a bike and bike4ever gave her some advice.
I've sold a couple of bikes on craigslist and some cycling stuff on ebay. And you know what, I cut and pasted from old ads, which served as a "template" for newer ads.
In my view, "commercial" would have been bike4ever listing her (non-existant) bike selling company or soliciting to sell the OP's bike for her. She did neither. She merely offered advice that was appropriate to the thread. I honestly don't see how you get "commercial" from the post you linked.
Excuse me, but this forum is a gift to us from the people at TeamEstrogen.com, and they have every right to determine what is and is not posted on this forum.
I'm amazed that people so easily lose sight of this simple little fact.
Jeff and Susan run this site on a very long leash - there are things that are posted here that would really piss me off were I in their shoes - and the least we can do is to respect their decisions on how and what is posted here.
And I think it is incredibly tacky that Bike4ever is trying to get other posters to feel sorry for her because she is not willing to abide by the decisions of the people who actually pay for this forum to exist and work to keep it running.
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I'm amazed that people so easily lose sight of this simple little fact.
but I actually said "the internet " and I didn't specifically say this forum. Nor did I say freedom of speech because when a forum is run by individuals, they do retain the right to censor what they wish. There is no freedom of speech. In that, I agree with you. What I am saying is, as long as they do not remove her posts from here, she is free to post what she wishes. They may exercise their rights of censorship in deleting this post if they wish.
Anyway, I did read the 'commercial looking' post, and I agree with you, but as long as TE doesn't delete this post, or any others, people may post what they wish. It doesn't mean it's 'right' or 'appropriate' - that's my point. And now, we are not talking about bikes at all... I'm done. Sorry to take this so off topic... (and apparently I haven't quite figured out the quote function here...)
I agree with you, ginny. Sure, TE operates these forums and sets the rules as to what is and is not appropriate. But . . . while some things may be unambiguously prohibited, there is necessarily a fuzzy--and pliable--boundary between appropriate and not appropriate.
I don't think it's inconceivable that the administrators would, in part, look to the forums' users to help determine where that boundary is. And what is permitted may change over time.
What is and is not appropriate for the FS forum appears to be in a state of flux right now. I don't need another bike but I will still check out what bike4ever is selling. And her listings are almost exclusively women's bikes or bikes in small sizes, which seems appropriate for this site.