Talk to me about skate ski boots

[Red Rock]

This might be a bit from the "old" school description. I hope it helps.

Just so you know, I raced Classic and Skating in College when they first started skating. After looking at that boot, it is amazing how far the technology has come. Wow. So from the simplistic side...

It looks like they have made the boot much more like a downhill type boot. I first used a modified classic boot that had the stabalizer up the center of the boot and that was about it. It had a longer lip to cover the ankle too. It looks like everything now is SO much better!.

From reading and looking at the pic, I am thinking you have the liner on the inside, then you have the boot/shoe on the inside (to lace boot up) and it is wrapped with a covering to protect laces. The liner is seperate so that it can be taken out to dry. This way they do not have to put fleece or "warming material" into the inside lining of the actual boot itself. At least that is my thinking.

Cockpit control is written on the boot itself. I am thinking this is something like your cycling shoe with a soild/stiff ankle and then the wraps on the outside to protect and help control your foot as you go through the stroke. This can be tightened with the stap on the top of boot.

specific lady fit inner boot -just means it is a boot to fit women's sizes
Heel lifter- is a part of the boot to help you lift your heel as you go through the stoke.
Assymetric heel bumper-means that it has a bumper or actual heel that is aerodynamic. This way you will know you have placed your foot back onto the ski once you have finished the stoke.
Quick drying knitted mesh liner- Ask someone about this. I have not seen the new technology on the shoes. It might be a second liner. Perhaps you could exchange them. When it is cold use the fleece liner, and when it is warm use the mesh liner? I would inquire more here just so you know.
Duel Density-I would ask on that as well.

I hope this helps answer your questions. I would encourage you to go to a place like REI or a sports store locally and see if they have examples of shoes like this to double check my responses. Like I said, its been a long time since I hit the snow.

Red Rock

[SadieKate]

The liner is seperate so that it can be taken out to dry. This way they do not have to put fleece or "warming material" into the inside lining of the actual boot itself. At least that is my thinking

Thanks, Red Rock, for all the thought. I've actually worn some rental Rossignol skate boots (that I think were the women's version) that are almost dead ringers for their backcountry classic cousins which I own. There is no removable anything.

Is what you are calling the stabilizer the "exoskeleton"? The frame around the rear foot and lower leg?

I understand all the concepts in the marketing stuff but I'm trying to figure out the pros and cons of those actual boots. Perhaps someone has real life experience with one or both brands in the skating world.

OK, off to do some lace modifications on my BC7s. I hate my right foot. Anyone want to swap?

[Bron]

The mind boggles. What is "cockpit control" when it's at home? We're talking about boots here!

Can you try them out before buying? I'd just go for the one that fits best and ignore the jargon. They both look like decent boots.

For the record I have the black and yellow salomon boots that everyone round here seems to have bought a few years ago. I've tried clasic ski-ing in them, but the sole was too stiff for it to be comfortable, so I bough classic boots too.

[SadieKate]

Well, at least we're getting a good laugh out of the hype.

2 out of the 3 Madshus dealers here don't rent Madshus, only their other brands. The Nordic Ctr may under their higher-priced demo program but I haven't asked about those boots yet - and the likelyhood of a women's 37 . . . . hmm.

Salomon's aren't even in the running due to fit, but thanks.

[SadieKate]

Yeah, nope, nada on renting Madshus skate boots.

[snapdragen]

OK, off to do some lace modifications on my BC7s. I hate my right foot. Anyone want to swap?

Sure.....you can have mine....

[SadieKate]

Aw, thanks! But we'd just be trading crappy big toes. When your big toe is the only flexible joint below your knee, you got problems.