yeaaa!

[SadieKate]

Does it matter?

No, it does not matter to me what Obama's religious beliefs are. What matters is the repetition of falsehoods when there are people who do care.

Is this the same attitude you use in your work?

[kermit]

When a man is born in another country and his upbringing is broadcast with several variations you take everything with a grain of salt. I believe the unbelievable. Lets just see what he does now that he got the job. And as far as my work attitude, I'm the one out protecting you.

[Cataboo]

Is Hawaii another country?

[SadieKate]

When a man is born in another country . . .

Since when is Hawaii another country?

I'll repeat the link and provide another.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/muslim.asp
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2...n_the_usa.html

[kermit]

Raised, my error.

[Aggie_Ama]

Obama was born in Hawaii, I thought it was part of USA? McCain was born in Panama but I am pretty sure if you are born on a US Base you are natural born. I don't know.

My Mammaw was born in Arizona before it was a state, we had a lively discussion about whether she was indeed American. Then my mom remembered her parents were born in Texas in 1896 and 1900, they were citizens of the USA and so was Mammaw by lineage.

ETA-Oh no my mom was wrong, Mammaw was born in January 19, 1918 but Arizona was a state as of February 14, 1912. Whew, she is an American through and through. She can run for president!

[Possegal]

I personally feel intimidated at this forum because I don't happen to worship at the steel-bikes-and-brooks-saddles church .

And sometimes I feel like I just don't belong here, because merino wool, regardless of what anyone says to the contrary, makes me itchy...

Imagine how I feel, I ride a Trek and have no issue with my saddle. From this board, I begin to think my butt doesn't have a clue what it is doing!

[Cataboo]

Imagine how I feel, I ride a Trek and have no issue with my saddle. From this board, I begin to think my butt doesn't have a clue what it is doing!

I personally am in awe of you and your happy hoohah.

I bought my one bike online and the others used off craigslist.

I didn't support my local bike shop.

I feel guilty, but the shop is expensive.

I know I could have budgeted so that I could have afforded to shop locally to pay more.

One of you will forgive me, I hope?

[kermit]

This is quite a lively discussion!

[SadieKate]

Raised, my error.

Yeah, we should look closely at McCain since as a child he lived outside the US as his father's position required.

[katluvr]

Well I am about to leave "work" for the day. This has been a great thread to read. I think of this as the real world...all the discussion threads here at TE.
We are not all alike. We don't all think alike. Our training goals, plans, etc are different. My average speed is not your average speed. And not all of us are into grueling long distance.

Thanks for having a place I could celebrate, if even just a tiny bit. I still find it very odd on how profoundly this election affected me...but not just me...this year's election really got people thinking, talking, excited and invested.

Someone said it both here & in some verbal conversations I have had....now we move on, now we look how we all can move forward with this and make things happen. That is the hope. I have it. I wish we all could feel that way. But isn't that why we are all individuals!

Good afternoon/night to all! Happy trails...biking, running, hiking, walking, etc!

[BleeckerSt_Girl]

I personally feel intimidated at this forum because I don't happen to worship at the steel-bikes-and-brooks-saddles church .
And sometimes I feel like I just don't belong here, because merino wool, regardless of what anyone says to the contrary, makes me itchy...

Imagine how I feel, I ride a Trek and have no issue with my saddle. From this board, I begin to think my butt doesn't have a clue what it is doing!

I love steel bikes, Brooks saddles, Trek bikes (we have one in our family), and merino wool. But I also think other kinds of bikes are great, and I love my lycra and 'performance' apparel as well as my merino wool. And whatever saddle is comfy for any particular person is GOOD, regardless of brand. Everyone has different needs and preferences.
The majority of women on TE don't ride steel bikes, don't wear merino wool when biking, and don't have any interest in Brooks saddles.

[Biciclista]

The majority of women on TE don't ride steel bikes, don't wear merino wool when biking, and don't have any interest in Brooks saddles.

Yeah, I usually feel like a dork for riding on a Brooks saddle; albiet a proud dork

If you can ride the saddle your bike came with YOU ARE REALLY FORTUNATE!!

[VeloVT]

I love steel bikes, Brooks saddles, Trek bikes (we have one in our family), and merino wool. But I also think other kinds of bikes are great, and I love my lycra and 'performance' apparel as well as my merino wool. And whatever saddle is comfy for any particular person is GOOD, regardless of brand. Everyone has different needs and preferences.
The majority of women on TE don't ride steel bikes, don't wear merino wool when biking, and don't have any interest in Brooks saddles.

I hope everyone realizes that I was absolutely joking and I am not intimidated by, nor do I resent, the people who express their affection for steel, Brooks and wool. I even think it's a nice aesthetic.

It was my "problem child with authority issues" way of responding to Jobob's rather strident proclamation that if a person expresses any view that might be contrary to some view that another person holds, the latter person "MUST BE VERY INTIMIDATED."

I'm quite happy that other people have found bikes and saddles and clothing that makes them happy, even if it is not what makes me happy.

And sorry Jobob, I don't mean to make this a personal attack. I guess the 72-point extra bold font kind of set me off. And I stayed up too late last night and am feeling cranky.

[Blueberry]

If you can ride the saddle your bike came with YOU ARE REALLY FORTUNATE!!

As is your wallet (as those of us who have tried many can attest)