I've had it!

[Crankin]

Miranda, are you talking about the Terry Bellas? Or the regular T shorts? I love the Bellas. Yes, the fabric is shiny, but it's tight and full of lycra. The more lycra the better for me.
Chamois is so individual. I could never go back to wearing the thin, one dimensional chamois of the old Terry shorts. My bum actually hurts if I wear shorts like that now. On the other hand, I have a pair of Shebeest with a very similar chamois to the Bellas. But, it's just a bit thicker. The first few times I wore them, ow! Especially when I wore them to spin class and the saddle there was well, not good with those shorts. It took washing them about 5-6 times to wear them down. Now I save those for long, hot rides.

[roadie gal]

Miranda, are you talking about the Terry Bellas? Or the regular T shorts? I love the Bellas. Yes, the fabric is shiny, but it's tight and full of lycra. The more lycra the better for me.
Chamois is so individual. I could never go back to wearing the thin, one dimensional chamois of the old Terry shorts. My bum actually hurts if I wear shorts like that now. On the other hand, I have a pair of Shebeest with a very similar chamois to the Bellas. But, it's just a bit thicker. The first few times I wore them, ow! Especially when I wore them to spin class and the saddle there was well, not good with those shorts. It took washing them about 5-6 times to wear them down. Now I save those for long, hot rides.

I bought a pair of the Bellas. Ugh! I felt like I was squeezing myself into a sausage casing! Now the T-shorts, that's a different story. I LOVE that fabric, it's supportive without being constrictive.

The chamois on all of them, the pink one, is WAY too thick for me by and large. I don't know why they have to make them so huge...

[sundial]

Maybe we should post pics of the thicknesses of chamois if inquiring minds want to know. It's kinda hard to tell from the description of the product.

[Miranda]

Maybe we should post pics of the thicknesses of chamois if inquiring minds want to know. It's kinda hard to tell from the description of the product.

Sundial... you just read my mind.

I had something with one of my orders that I had to call TE for the first time the other day. The phone service was just what I would expect of the site... awesome. Which, I expressed .

However... if I had to come up with something that might make TE even more unbelievably better, it would be chamois dimensions in the reference library.

I LOVE how you can click on the chamois type in the shorts description, and a pic of it pops up. The dimensions factor could be a CAD overlay, or another window maybe... or maybe even just text. That would be really really hard though if you did sizes within a particular short. Maybe for a start you could pick the most common size... say medium, and just ball park the width AND length in a single text line. This would at least give you an idea of how each brand compares.

Here's a couple things in shorts I own from TE...

EXAMPLES (rough measurement):

Sugoi Gusta size small 20cm wide, puff pad thingy (sorry really techy I know, bear with me) 15.5cm wide, length 30cm

Sheebeest Triple S road short size small 18cm wide, puff pad thingy 14cm, length 25cm

NOW THEN... let's look at my humble bum...
My sitz are 140mm/14cm, and a quick measurement from my sitz bones to my pubic bone is 25cm.

Let's see what happens to my bum in the two above shorts...
The Sugoi covers it all.
The Sheebeest short puts my bones directly on the edge of the puff pad thingy.... which doesn't really stay stationary in a ride, or probably doesn't even go on proportionally... sooo, my chamois isn't quite working there.

Now, the Sugoi Gusta short I LOVE (used for mtb), but might be too thick a material for whatever road saddle I evntually find. I think it's really hard to find a thinner thickness chamois, AND have it be the extra width if your sitz bones are further apart. That is indeed what those old PI Sugars did.

Plus, if you have enough meat on your bum to tightly fill up a small short (as the lycra should be), but enough bum bone to fill up a size med or lrg chamois... that mixes it up even more. Guess that means I have a big ole boney bum.

Umm, I have massive piles of laundry I need to catch up on, but when I do, I think I will take a couple pics of the shorts chamois... like the one old pair of Sugars I hoard for spin class (btw, purple chamois, & sz small W=20cm x L=30cm).

[sundial]

...puff pad thingy (sorry really techy I know....

LOL! Okay, I'm up for posting a photo of the thickness of my Sugoi Gusta short chamois if anyone would like to know like Zen.

[Zen]

Not that I'm some kind of Merv the Perv, but yes

[Crankin]

OK, you guys can measure your chamois...

Of course, I don't measure my sitz bones, either.

[Susan Otcenas]

However... if I had to come up with something that might make TE even more unbelievably better, it would be chamois dimensions in the reference library.

It's been under discussion for some time, actually. :-) We have a new photographer, and we've been talking about a way to use an L-shaped ruler graphic to show length & width. The only problen arises when we use vendor photos of chamois that are not straight-on views. Still working that out.

Anyway, we hope to start adding this feature with our S'09 product going forward.

Susan

[tulip]

I've found shorts I like, so I only buy those kind. I only buy one pair of shorts per year, and the kind I buy last me 4-5 years, so I have a quite a few pairs. My favorite brand has worked for me for years, so I don't even look at others.

[redrhodie]

I now like my small Terry knickers that caused so much trouble that first ride. Washing them a few times loosened up the chamois. Now they're perfect.