Well, it could be less expensive but then .... you'd be living somewhere else Welcome to CA, where are you from?

You also could start, post or join a ride here. From time to time we've arranged that right on TE.

For reviews of the rides with good food check out the "To heck with the ride, how is their ...." thread

http://forums.teamestrogen.com/showthread.php?t=26323

I have yet to post menus of our rides here