Saddle Sores

[aicabsolut]

Prep H is great when the sore appears. I tried DZ Nuts (marketed toward men - hence the name). It stays on better than Chamois Butter and seems to help keep sores at bay.

Good to know. I have been using a mix of Assos and Chamois Butt'r (on more sensitive spots that can't handle the menthol), but Chamois butt'r doesn't really last, especially in the rain. I'd been waiting for a review of DZ Nuts.

May be TMI, but I had one that I ended up going to a surgeon to get removed. It was an easy in-office procedure and I'm glad I had it done because the dang thing just didn't seem to be going away on its own.

A lot of sebaceous cysts will return even after they appear to clear up on their own or with antibiotics. The first one I got hasn't come back, luckily, but now I have another one right next to it. The antibiotics are helping a lot, but I had to use preparation H and epsom salts to get some of the goo out first, because it was just too painfully swollen. We'll see how this one turns out. I'd really rather not have any lancing and stitches in that area, but It is common for cyclists, I guess. A friend of mine had to have one removed last year, and she had to be off the bike for about a month. I've also heard that cortisone shots from a derm can make them shrink pretty quickly.

[Misandal]

Ok, I have a question. And I'm not being sarcastic, I seriously have a question. If the little bumps and red, raw-feeling skin is just basically "adult diaper rash" why do we powder babies' diapers but butter our chamois? Should we be making an attempt to keep our chamois/skin dry? Should it be a combination of powder on the chamois and ointment on the skin?

Since I have lots of hours in the saddle coming up (I'm doing the Blue Ridge Epic Tour Sept. 8-12) I am seeking ways to stay comfy in my shorts from day to day.

[Jiffer]

Ok, I have a question. And I'm not being sarcastic, I seriously have a question. If the little bumps and red, raw-feeling skin is just basically "adult diaper rash" why do we powder babies' diapers but butter our chamois? Should we be making an attempt to keep our chamois/skin dry? Should it be a combination of powder on the chamois and ointment on the skin?

Interesting way of looking at it. I think the idea of the ointment is to make your skin slip and slide in your shorts instead of rubbing and getting irritated.

I have to say, I have never understood the purpose of baby oil for babies. I have had two babies and the baby oil just sat there never being used! Kind of a similar confusion as you are having about chamois butter, I guess.

[OakLeaf]

I think those of us who use lubes use them to prevent chafing, not other types of rash. Chafing can be pretty severe on certain areas - think skin literally ripped off!

I think the heavier lubes like A&D, Aquaphor, etc., do promote clogged pores. That hasn't been a problem for me since I switched to water-based lubes (Chamois Butt'r, which I quit using because of the parabens, and now Beljum Budder). But I've ordered a tub of Nübutte (shea butter based), just to try it, so we'll see if that causes any problems.


ETA: Tab, could you do me a favor and post the ingredients list for DZ Nuts? It's not on their website. I'm intrigued by that product too - despite the name!

[Misandal]

I've used Chamois Butt'r before and it just seems to give my skin a head start on getting chafed because it's already moist and tender! If it actually lubed I'd use it more, but it seems like I do better without anything.

Forgive my ignorance, but why are we against parabens?

[OakLeaf]

Parabens are known to be endocrine disruptors, which mimic estrogen in the body. Many people believe that they can contribute to breast cancer, reproductive abnormalities, and abnormalities in developing fetuses.

[tab123]

ETA: Tab, could you do me a favor and post the ingredients list for DZ Nuts? It's not on their website. I'm intrigued by that product too - despite the name![/QUOTE]


Here is the paragraph from Competitive Cyclist that made me want to give DZ Nuts a try despite the name:

"The second reason we've got a crush on DZ Nuts is the fact that it uses plant-derived all-natural ingredients. The main three are Tea Tree Oil to make the cream anti-bacterial and anti-fungal; Evodia is an anti-inflammatory and wound healing agent from Chinese herbal medicine; and Masterwort is another herb well-regarded for its wound healing and calming properties."

It really stays on, even on hot humid days. I am much happier now.

[emily_in_nc]

I've also heard that cortisone shots from a derm can make them shrink pretty quickly.

I'll vouch for that! Mine was not diagnosed as a sebaceous cyst but was a chronically inflamed saddle sore on the crease between my buttocks and crotch. A cortisone shot from my dermatologist stung for a few seconds but provided instant relief. Still, it returned when I went back to riding on that same saddle several months later (I got the shot during the winter and started riding again in the springtime). Turns out I needed a wider saddle so that my weight was supported on my actual sit bones and not further inwards. Since I've gone back to a Terry Butterfly (from a narrower SSM Atola), I haven't had a bit of a problem with this area.

Good luck -- saddle sores of any variety are no fun!

[aicabsolut]

Mine are from clogged pores or a pinch or something aggravated by the folds at the sides of the chamois. It really came on after a wet ride when my chamois cream had pretty much disappeared and I was all red and raw. I suppose better fitting shorts/chamois could help, but I take what the team gets.

As for buttering our butts versus powdering a baby's, I think it has to do with the inevitable amount of sweat we produce when riding. Yeah, I guess some powder would help keep us dry, but it's a losing battle, especially on long rides. It's also not in a very good area for evaporation, so we're going to be a bit soggy. Sure, babies get sweaty, but between the diaper changes and baths, I think we keep that pretty well under control, right? I mean, you don't want to be hanging around for a long time in a wet chamois just like you don't want to leave a wet diaper on a child, but if you're riding around for several hours, you don't get the luxury of changing frequently enough. In light of that, the best thing is to try to reduce friction, condition the skin, and use something with antibacterial properties to make all that moving around in dampness as comfortable as possible. And if we do irritate the skin harshly despite all the lubing, to then try to keep the bacteria on our skin from causing some sort of infection (whether a cyst, infected hair follicle, ulcer, whatever).