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[Miranda]

I tend to have a 40 degree torso angle on my bike with moustache bars, no problem on the girly-bits on the Brooks B67 on that bike.

My bike with drop bars, I spend half my time in the drops, no problem on that Brooks B67, either. (bars at same height as saddle) Dunno what my torso angle is on that one, certainly less than 40 degrees.

But then, I can also sit on a wooden chair in my undies with my elbows on my knees and not feel any girly-bit squooshing (the test for needing a cut-out). (or, if your saddle isn't wide enough or has too much padding, it's the comparison test for you needing a different saddle!)

If you know you need a cut-out, you might want to wait for the B-17 Imperial. (Brooks with cut-out, and no grumpy company owner like with An-Atomica) If you have wide sits and need a cut-out, hang tight for the B-68 Imperial. Check with Bill at Wallingford for release dates. www.wallbike.com

Knott... Thank you for that about other companies (speaking of SA). His saddle may be wonderful, but I had issues before I ever rode it due the order arriving with a defect. I didn't use my order. It ended up being a return. My experience was negative (long story I wrote, and now think I'd better take it off). I think it's time to hire a marketing rep that deals well with the public would be my consumer tip.

On the note about the Brooks Imperial...
I started reading the threads on BikeForums last night after getting my post response info here. The Brooks lady is on there with many people test riding it. I'm not done reading yet, but it was interesting. Andrea (Brooks rep) wrote it might be out to masses by year end where I left off. I will ask Bill at Wallbike this question too. I'll play on my wooden chairs and see what I think about the cut out. I have never used that test before. I appreciate your feedback!

[KnottedYet]

I kinda wonder if that's why TE stopped carrying the An-Atomica saddles.

[Miranda]

I kinda wonder if that's why TE stopped carrying the An-Atomica saddles.

Knott... I really wondered the same thing. I was out of town without net access and upon return I saw Administrator Susan's post about the SA stock being sold on ebay. I started to post something about my experience in that thread, but thought maybe I'd better not.

One user on the BikeForums trying the Imperial is a current SA owner. I stopped at page 30 of 50 last night reading, but he has some comments comparing both the SA and Imperial.

I am going back to register there to be able to view some pics I could not see as a non-user. Some of the Imperial users were having issues with the wear of the cut out. Andrea posted that Brooks did not say the saddle was 100% perfect market ready, thus the reason for giving it out free for a trial and study (some folks did pay for a trial issue saddle to be in the test). The SA can have stretch issues as well I read.

To me, obviously any hyde is going to be more stable if it doesn't have a hole cut in the middle of. But, what's a happy medium I think is still being determined (where I stopped reading, anyways). I belived Andrea was putting a summary of the tests on the Brooks home page too. I did not look for it, yet.

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On the note about the Brooks Imperial...
I started reading the threads on BikeForums last night after getting my post response info here. The Brooks lady is on there with many people test riding it. I'm not done reading yet, but it was interesting. Andrea (Brooks rep) wrote it might be out to masses by year end where I left off. I will ask Bill at Wallbike this question too. I'll play on my wooden chairs and see what I think about the cut out. I have never used that test before. I appreciate your feedback!

Andrea is actually a guy. I thought that also, until he explained that it is actually a man's name over there. He's from Italy??? I think???

[Miranda]

Andrea is actually a guy. I thought that also, until he explained that it is actually a man's name over there. He's from Italy??? I think???

OH! Thx for telling me that. I wouldn't want to give him an uninvited sex change. We have some Britt friends that moved away, but I have E contact with. It took a while for us to understand one another with some of their terms. I went to give my Britt lady friend a "jumper" she had asked to borrow once... my "jumper" was a short-all-dress. Her "jumper" she wanted was a sweater. Go figure.