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  1. #1
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    Insomnia is driving me crazy

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    I start work at 7am and find it hard to get more than 6-7 hours of sleep a night (between working out, dinner, errands, etc.). Over the past couple weeks I have not been able to sleep and it came to a head last weekend when I only got in a couple hours over 3 days. I broke down and bought some over the counter sleep aid and it's not helping. I am extremely tired but simply cannot fall asleep...I even had to skip my MTB race last weekend because I was just too tired

    I'd like to try some alternative remedies before getting an Rx from the doc. Any ideas?

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    Ugh, and you have my sympathy. Well, a recent study showed that prescription sleep aids cause people to fall asleep 10 minutes earlier than non-medicated people, they really aren't that effective.

    Maybe start with simple stuff. Cut out all alcohol. No more allergy meds. Back off on the coffee. Is your room dark, quiet, and cool? Do you go to sleep then wake up, or can you not fall asleep in the first place?



    Most 90 year old people only need 5 hours of sleep a night. Are you 90?

    This can be tough to figure out.
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    There's Valerian -- it's an herb (the root actually) Warning though, it smells like dirty socks. I did find it helpful when I was going through some major insomnia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drtgirl View Post
    I start work at 7am and find it hard to get more than 6-7 hours of sleep a night (between working out, dinner, errands, etc.). Over the past couple weeks I have not been able to sleep and it came to a head last weekend when I only got in a couple hours over 3 days. I broke down and bought some over the counter sleep aid and it's not helping. I am extremely tired but simply cannot fall asleep...I even had to skip my MTB race last weekend because I was just too tired

    I'd like to try some alternative remedies before getting an Rx from the doc. Any ideas?
    This probably won't work for everyone but it does wonders for me. I download a bunch of podcasts or an audiobook on my ipod (must be talking - music keeps me awake) and sleep with my ipod under my pillow, one ear plug in my ear. At bedtime, I put on a podcast, start listening to it, and inevitably fall asleep.

    I figured this out because I often fall asleep when I'm watching TV (although I wake up if the sound changes such as a loud commercial, or the TV gets turned off. )Obviously, I didn't want to have the TV on in my bedroom at night so I bought an ipod. I have to have some interest in what they're talking about because listening to it takes my mind of trying to fall asleep. It can't be TOO exciting or I stay awake listening. I find I usually listen for 5-10 minutes and then just drift off. My biggest problem is waking up in the middle of the night but now all I have to do is put on another podcast and I fall asleep easily. I prefer podcasts to audiobooks because they turn off as soon as they're finished.

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  5. #5
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    420?

    Seriously, how about some 420?

    In Cali, it is official that marijuana is prescribed for insomnia. Here is a one interesting article from quick google search:

    http://sleepdisorders.about.com/cs/m...maricanada.htm

    Now, I am a work in Psychiatric Institute in Substance abuse department. If you try marijuana for a week, for instance have a joint before you go to sleep, you will not become drug addict. You will be less addicted than if you were drinking coffee in the morning. On the other hand, if you used marijuana as thrill and were seeking more and more, it would lead you consequently to other drugs. That is the biggest danger of marijuana. That sooner or later it is not enough for those who smoke it for a thrill.

    Martina

    P.S. Please, if your symptoms last longer, do not take the insomnia lightly. Often this is the only manifestation of something else happening in the body or in the brain. Please, do go to doctor!
    Last edited by martinkap; 07-29-2008 at 10:30 PM.

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    I know meditation is supposed to be a spiritual practice, not a sleep aid...

    but when anxiety is keeping me awake, I find it very helpful to grab my prayer beads and use them to focus on a mantra. Usually I'll just slip off, and wake up in the morning with my beads in my hand.

    Only I lost my prayer beads somewhere (probably on my second-to-last trip ) so now I'm using Mardi Gras-style beads. No, I did not get them that way. But don't tell the Buddha, anyway.

    +1 on the valerian also, even more so in one of the combos with skullcap and hops. And excluding artificial light... but that's a double-edged sword when you live in a populated area, because it means excluding natural morning light too, which is even more important. Either way, it's very important that you get exposed to plenty of natural spectrum light during your waking hours. If your office doesn't have a window, ask for full-spectrum light bulbs (or buy and install them yourself). They made an ENORMOUS difference to my sleep quality when I was working in a windowless office.
    Last edited by OakLeaf; 07-30-2008 at 03:54 AM.
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    Melatonin helps me, and it is a potent anti-oxidant as well. A friend of mine with breast cancer is prescribed it by her doc (in higher than OTC doses). I believe the prescription drug Rosarem (not sure if I spelled that right) is just a high dose of Melatonin. I take the 3mg size, and it really does seem to help me drift off to sleep faster, unless something is really bothering me.

    I have a backup Rx of Ambien for those nights that I know I am not going to be able to fall asleep easily -- say, if I have something big coming up the next day that makes me anxious. Within 1/2 hour of taking one, I am in dreamland, but you definitely don't want to take them every night as you'll get horrible rebound insomnia.

    Good luck -- I do feel your pain. Great sleep seems more and more elusive to me as I get older.

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    Yoga really relaxes me and I sleep really well after doing yoga.

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    Sleep disturbance can be a sign of overtraining (or over anything). Just one more thing to consider.

    Um, and what about your age?
    Last edited by SadieKate; 07-30-2008 at 09:42 AM.
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    Benadryl antihistamine works very well for me as an occasional sleep aid.

    You can get store-brand generic diphenhydramine hydrochloride for a lot cheaper.

    It's also the ingredient used in Tylenol PM

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    +1 for melatonin. Here is what works for me: Take it 3 nights in a row, 1/2 hour before you want to fall asleep, it will reset your body clock. Then the next time you're experiencing insomnia, repeat.

    Also, no caffeine after noon. No food after 8pm. Limit alcohol (sugar in the alcohol keeps me up).

    Hope these tricks help you as much as they helped me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OakLeaf View Post
    I know meditation is supposed to be a spiritual practice, not a sleep aid...

    but when anxiety is keeping me awake, I find it very helpful to grab my prayer beads and use them to focus on a mantra. Usually I'll just slip off, and wake up in the morning with my beads in my hand.
    I've found meditating to be really helpful as well. I used to have horrible insomia, now I just relax and breathe through it.

    Quote Originally Posted by OakLeaf View Post
    Only I lost my prayer beads somewhere (probably on my second-to-last trip ) so now I'm using Mardi Gras-style beads. No, I did not get them that way. But don't tell the Buddha, anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by snapdragen View Post
    There's Valerian -- it's an herb (the root actually) Warning though, it smells like dirty socks. I did find it helpful when I was going through some major insomnia.
    I use Nature's Way Valerian Nighttime when I have trouble sleeping. It's odor-free.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SadieKate View Post
    Sleep disturbance can be a sign of overtraing (or over anything). Just one more thing to consider.
    It does sound like you have a lot on your plate.
    I'm not too keen on any electronics (tv, radio, computer) in the bedroom - Sha Chi

    Try reading for about an hour before bed. No other sound but the turn of a page.
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    A little exercise and also stretching in the evening and then a hot shower helps some people, as does a glass of milk.
    Caffeine can stay in your system for many hours and prevent you from falling asleep.
    Getting up earlier in the morning can make people get sleepy earlier in the nighttime too.
    Some people just don't need 8 hours of sleep on a regular basis, especially as they get older.
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