man beaten by motorists (not cycling!)

[Iris616]

Mimi-Is there an update on the victim?

These stories should always be relevant, they should make us stop and feel sadness for the victims (and maybe the perpetrator). Heck, that Man is somebodies Dad/husband/son/Grandfather who was injured. That matters in this world.

[SadieKate]

Hmm, I'm flabbergasted. If mimi recommended a particular book and I asked why it was special to her I think she'd be more than willing to explain. She reads a lot. I think it's great that people read a lot and read broadly.

I ask the same question about a newspaper article and it invokes anger.

I didn't ask about relevancy. I asked her what made the article stand out above hundreds of others on the same topic.

[KnottedYet]

Mimi-Is there an update on the victim?

These stories should always be relevant, they should make us stop and feel sadness for the victims (and maybe the perpetrator). Heck, that Man is somebodies Dad/husband/son/Grandfather who was injured. That matters in this world.

These stories should also remind us that when dealing with persons who are clearly behaving in an emotionally disturbed manner (in the throes of irrational road rage or other irrational mind-spasms) that our behaviour must remain CALMER and MORE RATIONAL than theirs. Sometimes (often times, as so many of us have experienced) reacting out of our own anger only escalates things.

(obviously everyone in this particular news story was angry, and everyone contributed to the escalation)

[BleeckerSt_Girl]

These stories should also remind us that when dealing with persons who are clearly behaving in an emotionally disturbed manner (in the throes of irrational road rage or other irrational mind-spasms) that our behaviour must remain CALMER and MORE RATIONAL than theirs. Sometimes (often times, as so many of us have experienced) reacting out of our own anger only escalates things.

(obviously everyone in this particular news story was angry, and everyone contributed to the escalation)

That's a good point, yeah it's true. Hard to do in certain situations, too!

[Boise Birder]

Mimi, I suspect this struck a chord with you. We've all had that experience - a sense of why did this have to happen, hoping the victim is ok. A little empathy can go a long ways. Mimi, I hope I didn't take too much license with what you were expressing

Biking, walking, shopping or driving, we all face these predicaments. Knotted's suggestion - respond commonly, try to de-escalate the situation, or where necessary, walk way, is a good idea.

I think we all care about each other on this forum. Let's all try to make this world a better, less violent place, no matter what circumstances we face.

Do that, we will all have safer world for biking.

[Trek420]

Do that, we will all have safer world for biking.

.... and gardening

Oh, welcome to TE Boise Birder.

[Boise Birder]

Love gardening, too! Bugs, too! Can't kill 'em with few exceptions. Sometimes conflicts with the gardening thing.

Another story for another thread.

Anyway, I was born in Seattle area, and still love it (not quite as much as Boise!)

Mimi and others, please keep working to keep, and improve my birthplace as a place that loves and respects all people, and bicycles!

Ok, I'm selfish.

I want to vacation there and enjoy my stay!

[salsabike]

Mimi-Is there an update on the victim?

He died tonight, Iris. Sorry to have to post that.

[Iris616]

He died tonight, Iris. Sorry to have to post that.

I'm so sorry to hear that.

It's completely senseless.

[Aggie_Ama]

He died tonight, Iris. Sorry to have to post that.

This makes me ill. It sounds like the man shouldn't have sprayed the girls with the hose but in no way should he have been beaten to death.

My mother had a co-workers father beaten to death after rear ending someone on IH-35 here. It wasn't even large damage, the cars were driveable. Senseless.

For me all these articles are relevant in raising our awareness of the possibility of others actions. I am not scared of the world but I am aware that people seem to be less understanding of one another than I expect them to be.

[BleeckerSt_Girl]

It does re-emphasize the need to stay cool when we are confronted by angry motorists.
Poor man. And I bet those women feel pretty badly, they certainly never would have intended that outcome. Let's hope they catch the man who knocked the old man out.

[wannaduacentury]

Poor man. And I bet those women feel pretty badly, they certainly never would have intended that outcome. Let's hope they catch the man who knocked the old man out.

If those young ladies had the maturity to just stay in their car and just deal with the traffic, they would have been on their way a lot sooner. The young man should have left him alone as well. As for the older man spraying the girls w/ the waterhose (they probably deserved it) and who hasn't thought of doing that to someone who is just being irrational(even though it isn't right- I know). I'm sorry he died. If they catch the young man who hit him, he'll have to serve time and he'll cool his heels behind bars and have a long time to think. The impatient young ladies(since one of them/the driver-she talked to police) should have to do community service watering flowers and helping keep up the grounds in the city. Teach them some lessons in patience. Regardless of the traffic problem at the moment or why it's there, is no reason to hurt someone. Just my two cents. Jenn

[mimitabby]

they did catch him. he turned himself in to his minister, with his family. he had been trying to turn his life around. His girlfriend was one of those three girls and she called him to come help, so boy; he did. He wasn't set out to murder someone. But he lost his temper again and lost his freedom again. And another human being died.

Some people never learn.

[MM_QFC!]

If those young ladies had the maturity to just stay in their car and just deal with the traffic, they would have been on their way a lot sooner. The young man should have left him alone as well. As for the older man spraying the girls w/ the waterhose (they probably deserved it) and who hasn't thought of doing that to someone who is just being irrational(even though it isn't right- I know). I'm sorry he died. If they catch the young man who hit him, he'll have to serve time and he'll cool his heels behind bars and have a long time to think. The impatient young ladies(since one of them/the driver-she talked to police) should have to do community service watering flowers and helping keep up the grounds in the city. Teach them some lessons in patience. Regardless of the traffic problem at the moment or why it's there, is no reason to hurt someone. Just my two cents. Jenn

right, and I posted the link to the newspaper article a bit earlier this afternoon, so you can read about him turning himself in...
+1 to what Mimi said...and I'd also say that those "young ladies" as you termed them, acted anything but ladylike and were lots more than impatient...how about rude and confrontational for starters?
The article cites the police and/or witnesses statements that the (now dead) victim did not provoke their tirade or violence against him and he did not strike back...just disgusting, the whole thing...really, really sickening how some people act towards others and somehow want help in explaining it away...sheesh!

[smilingcat]

The whole thing is really sad. I really hope they throw the book on the attacker. I could care less about his skin color.

Assailant's action is just so hypocritical. A GOOD CHURCH MEMBER. IN PRAYER before surrendering to the police. What?? If you have the good conscious to be praying and believe in god/religion, you should have a lot more respect to others.

Maybe I'm just really old fashioned in many ways. I dress properly for the office. None of this tank tops/shorts/skorts/athletic wear... Almost always in business appropriate attaire. then again I have to be. Every e-mail starts with proper salutation Dear Sir, Dear Madam, Dear Ms./Mr./Dr. so-and-so. And out on the town same sort of thing...

Here I tend to be very casual, still. Its on very rare occasion you will hear me use profanity or raise my voice. I have no need.

The girls who started the altercation and increased the level of hostility should also be arrested. You just can't go along in life screaming and demeaning other people. Just so self centered.

I wish our country had a mandatory community service for all young people. Help clean the park. Help out the elderly. help out the handicap. And learn about why it is so important to be active in your community in a positive way.

AWWWGGG!!! this is just so maddening.

Thank you with the followup. I would like to have closure on this story. What will he be sentenced with? in-voluntary manslaughter, murder 2... and what will happen to the girls? Can't they be prosecuted with something? anything??

I just can't fathom this cruel twist of fate on the victim.
Smilingcat

PS. my house is on a corner with one street being a narrow one way street. One self centered service guy parked his service truck right in the middle of the road to service one of my neighbor's cable TV. A car came down saw that the street was blocked. She could have made a right on front of my house and detoured down the next street. No. She drives up to the bumper and just layed on her horn for about 10 minutes. Another neighbor came out from his sleep (it was before 8:00AM). She gives him the finger and starts yelling at the sleepy neighbor "Get your F**& car out of the way." Neighbor says its not my car so she starts screaming more obsenity at him and so it went for about 30 minutes. with her laying on the horn for good 20 minutes. The neighbor whose cable was being serviced didn't even bother to come out and check. They didn't want to be bothered. And my partner well... I wish I was there cause I would have called the police. Had the service truck ticketed, and girl a ticket for disturbing the peace...