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    Quote Originally Posted by Iris616 View Post
    Mimi-Is there an update on the victim?

    These stories should always be relevant, they should make us stop and feel sadness for the victims (and maybe the perpetrator). Heck, that Man is somebodies Dad/husband/son/Grandfather who was injured. That matters in this world.
    These stories should also remind us that when dealing with persons who are clearly behaving in an emotionally disturbed manner (in the throes of irrational road rage or other irrational mind-spasms) that our behaviour must remain CALMER and MORE RATIONAL than theirs. Sometimes (often times, as so many of us have experienced) reacting out of our own anger only escalates things.

    (obviously everyone in this particular news story was angry, and everyone contributed to the escalation)
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    Quote Originally Posted by KnottedYet View Post
    These stories should also remind us that when dealing with persons who are clearly behaving in an emotionally disturbed manner (in the throes of irrational road rage or other irrational mind-spasms) that our behaviour must remain CALMER and MORE RATIONAL than theirs. Sometimes (often times, as so many of us have experienced) reacting out of our own anger only escalates things.

    (obviously everyone in this particular news story was angry, and everyone contributed to the escalation)
    That's a good point, yeah it's true. Hard to do in certain situations, too!
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    Good post, knotted - very true

    Mimi, I suspect this struck a chord with you. We've all had that experience - a sense of why did this have to happen, hoping the victim is ok. A little empathy can go a long ways. Mimi, I hope I didn't take too much license with what you were expressing

    Biking, walking, shopping or driving, we all face these predicaments. Knotted's suggestion - respond commonly, try to de-escalate the situation, or where necessary, walk way, is a good idea.

    I think we all care about each other on this forum. Let's all try to make this world a better, less violent place, no matter what circumstances we face.

    Do that, we will all have safer world for biking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boise Birder View Post
    Do that, we will all have safer world for biking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iris616 View Post
    Mimi-Is there an update on the victim?

    He died tonight, Iris. Sorry to have to post that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by salsabike View Post
    He died tonight, Iris. Sorry to have to post that.
    I'm so sorry to hear that.

    It's completely senseless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by salsabike View Post
    He died tonight, Iris. Sorry to have to post that.
    This makes me ill. It sounds like the man shouldn't have sprayed the girls with the hose but in no way should he have been beaten to death.

    My mother had a co-workers father beaten to death after rear ending someone on IH-35 here. It wasn't even large damage, the cars were driveable. Senseless.

    For me all these articles are relevant in raising our awareness of the possibility of others actions. I am not scared of the world but I am aware that people seem to be less understanding of one another than I expect them to be.
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    It does re-emphasize the need to stay cool when we are confronted by angry motorists.
    Poor man. And I bet those women feel pretty badly, they certainly never would have intended that outcome. Let's hope they catch the man who knocked the old man out.
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    Well now its a homocide. The police better catch the perp. and throw him in jail. Just too much anger and not enough self control.

    Our society has gotten so car-centric that crimes commited in a car or car related, the perp. gets away with lot less severeity than with a gun for instance. Run over a pedestrian and kill the person deliverately versus killing a person with a gun. Result for the victim is the same. Yet, the way we treat the driver and the guman is very different. The way its reported, the way the justice system handle the person... Do you think the driver will be in shackles when he goes for arraignment with officers on both side or will he show up without the shackles? And what about the gunman. I think you can see the difference.

    The gardner incident here and the Mandeville Canyon incident just highlights the road rage and how dangerous it really is out there. Many of the drivers feel like they have license to cause bodily injury onto others.

    We just need to be more mindful and be careful in dealing with angry drivers.

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