Help me build a better jersey!

[BleeckerSt_Girl]

--if there is a correlation between waist or hip measurement, or waist/hip ratio, and preference for elastic

I think it's pretty basic science:

Most jersey elastic goes somewhere around the hips, or at least a little below the waist.

Most women's waists are at least somewhat smaller circumference than their hips.

Elastic that is stretched around something will seek to creep to a place of smaller circumference.

Result: Jersey elastic hem creeping up to your waist instead of staying down like most non-elastic hems do.

[VeloVT]

I think it's pretty basic science:

Most jersey elastic goes somewhere around the hips, or at least a little below the waist.

Most women's waists are at least somewhat smaller circumference than their hips.

Elastic that is stretched around something will seek to creep to a place of smaller circumference.

Result: Jersey elastic hem creeping up to your waist instead of staying down like most non-elastic hems do.

See, I don't think it's that simple. I have a decidedly female waist/hip ratio, but I'm just fine with elastic hems, unless the jersey is too short (or too narrow at the hem) in the first place. If a jersey is cut to hit my waist and hips properly, than the elastic does its job and keeps the jersey down. If a jersey's waist falls somewhere around my ribs and it's hem falls in the curve between my hip and waist, then yes, elastic will help it ride up (it would probably ride up anyway though; I have some overly short Shebeest jerseys WITHOUT elastic that ride up). That's how it works for me anyway ... Most of my favorite jerseys actually DO have elastic.

[bmccasland]

Not certain how to phrase this...
On jerseys that have elastic at the bottom, and it the botom stays down - does the elastic face have a bit of a "grip" quality to it - as compared to slippery? I think I'll need to do a trial run with my jerseys at home.

Maybe what us curvy types need are jerseys that allow for hips, and elastic that grips?
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[dex]

I think it's pretty basic science:

Most jersey elastic goes somewhere around the hips, or at least a little below the waist.

Most women's waists are at least somewhat smaller circumference than their hips.

Elastic that is stretched around something will seek to creep to a place of smaller circumference.

Result: Jersey elastic hem creeping up to your waist instead of staying down like most non-elastic hems do.

Heh. Unless you're of more apple-y shape. Then, if the jersey isn't long enough to go all the way past the hips (usually resulting in an unusable jersey, because sitting on your jersey is neither comfortable or useful), the smallest circumference is usually somewhere on the ribcage right around the bra band line. Talk about creeping hemlines. (Though I had to laugh the first time that happened to me...round, white exposed tummy on a very busy trail. I'm surprised there were no accidents around me at the site of it. )

[SlowButSteady]

I did the survey.

I'm begging you, design a jersey that is not tight and has no elastic in the hem in a quick-dry & cool fabric with nice bright colors and graphics that are not girly.

Please.

Also please make it in some sizes besides toddler, extra-small, kinda small, medium-small and might-fit-an-adult-human.

[Kano]

I wonder if we need to define "girlie" as opposed to "feminine" maybe????

Which is this?

How about this one?

And this?

Karen in Boise

[roadie gal]

[QUOTE=Kano;332173]I wonder if we need to define "girlie" as opposed to "feminine" maybe????

Which is this?
I thought this one was feminine and classy, not girly.

How about this one?
It took me a while to figure out what this one was. I think it's just strange. I wouldn't wear it.

And this?
This is the best of the 3. It's feminine without being pastel. It's got nice bold colors and a strong design, but is obviously meant for women.

To me, these embody the worst in women's jersery designs:http://www.teamestrogen.com/products.asp?pID=32437 and http://www.teamestrogen.com/products.asp?pID=32449
They both look like mumus.

[Fujichants]

I wonder if we need to define "girlie" as opposed to "feminine" maybe????

Which is this?

How about this one?

And this?

Karen in Boise

That mermaid jersey is ick. The Cannondale one is pretty nice. The Beijing one has nice colors, but the writing on it bugs me. I have my phases when I want something more girly (like the Pearl Izumi butterfly one), and sometimes I just want something that isn't girly at all (Castelli pro logo jerseys).

[Andrea]

My main complaint about what's out now is that noone who makes team kits really seems to care about how their women's clothing fits! They just throw in a larger chamois and shorten the jersey. Lame!

[Crankin]

I agree with Eden. I am small and I am not growing taller at age 54; it's increasingly difficult for me to buy anything. I can wear x-small jerseys that have no elastic. I hate elastic! I weigh 106 lbs and the jerseys still ride up on me. So, I mostly have Terry jerseys and a couple of Voler club cuts for women because they seem to be the only ones that make extra smalls with no elastic. I like some of the Shebeest jerseys, but some are actually too big on me in extra small. I was able to shrink one by washing it in hot water a few times.
I think that whoever makes jerseys needs to pay attention to people at the outer edge of the size spectrum; half the time when I go to order stuff from Athleta (regular athletic clothes, not cycling things) the petite x smalls are sold out because there is such a run on them.

[Eden]

Also please make it in some sizes besides toddler, extra-small, kinda small, medium-small and might-fit-an-adult-human.

you know this actually bugs me.... Look I'm small, born that way, 5' tall and not getting any bigger. Believe me ALMOST NOTHING IS REALLY MADE SMALL. It's as difficult for me to find things that fit as it is for people who may be larger than average. Clothing is designed for some idealized model of people in the middle for the most part (which means it fits few....), so it really begins to grate on me that everyone blames the little folks when they can't find something that fits them. It's just as hard for us OK?
thanks
Eden nottoddlersizedandresentsthe implicationbutsmallandstillcan'tfindclothingthatfitswellandjustasirritatedasyouaboutit