Quote Originally Posted by Grog
That's among the reasons why I always stop at red lights. I behave like a (responsible and respectful) car driver would as much as I can.
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I'm very glad you do that, Grog, but with all due respect, first and foremost we stop at stop lights because that's the law - when we're cycling on the road, we are vehicles and we are subject to the same laws as other vehicles. We have to behave like a car driver because we are subject to the same laws as a car driver would be.

And apart from it being the law, when we behave like car drivers we are acting predictably - and that's essential for safe cycling.

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