saddle and shorts

[Tokie]

The Selle Italia sport saddle sold here at TE is a pretty comfy saddle, good padding, but not soft. I found the Specialized saddles rock-hard too, and have never liked the Terry saddles. I only ride about 125 miles a week and my butt is never sore tokie

[motochick]

I was in the same boat as you, too many saddles and none of them worked for longer rides. I researched what the distance riders were using and ended up trying the selle an-atomica saddle. It is wonderful. No pain anywhere! It worked out so well that hubby and I now have 4 of them.

Shorts was another pain in my @ss, quite literally. I used to wear PI but realized I needed bibs and the only chamois PI offered didn't work for me. I bought some Louis Garneau from TE and they work well but not perfect. They seem to "cameltoe" and it gets a little uncomfortable after a while.

My problem is, I need a chamois that is wide in the back end. My hubby wears Castelli bibs with the KISS chamois so I tried them on and the pad seemed like it would work for me. I ordered some in my size and the pad was great in the back, but too wide in the middle and front. (BTW, they do not make castelli bibs for women with the KISS chamois or those would be the ones I would wear) SOOOOO, what I did was undo the front half of the chamois, cut out the excess material (the wings) and sew the chamois back in place. Voila! $58 shipped and 20 min to customize. I have 2 pairs with another coming soon.

I have also tried the Exto Ondo bibs with the racior chamois and it was too narrow in the back. Too bad cuz they are NICE shorts. I need to get them in the for sale section.

Good luck on finding your right combo, it took me about 8 months but now all is good on my bottom end!

Brenda

[redrhodie]

I was in the same boat as you, too many saddles and none of them worked for longer rides. I researched what the distance riders were using and ended up trying the selle an-atomica saddle. It is wonderful. No pain anywhere!
Brenda

+1 for Selle An-Atomica. It's fannytastic. I love mine. Andrea had one that stretched out and caused HUGE discomfort, though. Mine is the Watershed leather, and I don't know if that's more resistant to stretching or not, but I haven't needed to tighten it yet, and it has around 1000 miles on it.

[Brandi]

I road 250 miles on rough road with a terry damselfly (spelling) and not a pain any place but for a little rash from a cheap pair of shorts (never do that again) My favorite shorts as of right now are a pair of Terry's I bought from someone here and now i don't know what they are called! So when i go to order i an scr*wed!

[kgorrell]

Thank you all for your input. This is my first time on the discussion board and I'm finding it very helpful. I didn't expect to receive so much feedback and really appreciate everyone's thoughts.

As far as the saddle pain, my pain is from the pressure on my sits bones (at least that's what it feels like). It seems like the friction on a saddle that does not have much padding really bothers me. It feels like my bones are being bruised if that makes any sense.

Has anyone tried Terry Butterfly or san marco?

And are the sugio RS shorts true to size? It says a small is a 27 and an extra small is 25.5, but I'm a 26 so I'm wondering if I be better off with a small or extra small?

[VeloVT]

Hey motochick: Castelli does make a women's bib with Kiss chamois:

http://www.bicyclinghub.com/20cazenduewo2.html

It is from this season too, since it's on Castelli's website:
http://www.castelli-us.com/pc-985-5-...bshort-18.aspx

I have the half-short version of these, they're pretty comfortable.

To the original poster: I think the Sugoi shorts run pretty true to size. I wear a small in the RS Flex shorts, a small in PI, a small in Shebeest, etc. I can't say which size you should order based on your waist measurement -- my hips are a little bigger than most of the hip measurements given for smalls, for instance, but I have a huge difference between my waist and hips (wide hips -- waist is much smaller), and if I order to fit exact hip measurement the shorts will be too big all over (including chamois -- yuck!) -- it all depends on how you're built. But I think with these shorts you're probably safe ordering the size you wear in most other shorts...

ETA: funny that Koala and I should post at the same time. Just goes to show we're all built differently. I think it DOES make more intuitive sense to order by hips instead of waist, but IN FACT I get a better fit by ordering by waist size... go figure...

[BleeckerSt_Girl]

Make sure you look at some of the bazillion threads all about various saddles and experiences with them:
http://forums.teamestrogen.com/forumdisplay.php?f=72

[Andrea]

+1 for Selle An-Atomica. It's fannytastic. I love mine. Andrea had one that stretched out and caused HUGE discomfort, though. Mine is the Watershed leather, and I don't know if that's more resistant to stretching or not, but I haven't needed to tighten it yet, and it has around 1000 miles on it.

Yep- I had two of them (watershed version & all). They were great when the tension was up, but as soon as I reached the end of the tension bolt, the cutout started rubbing and cutting. I'm not close to the weight limit at which they'd recommend the Clydesdale version, either.

Now I ride a San Marco Glamour Aspide. I tried three Terry saddles and two Specialized ones. The Terry ones were too padded and the padding broke down & closed the cutouts shut (ow), and the specialized ones were just too wide in the middle area.

[redrhodie]

Now I ride a San Marco Glamour Aspide. I tried three Terry saddles and two Specialized ones. The Terry ones were too padded and the padding broke down & closed the cutouts shut (ow), and the specialized ones were just too wide in the middle area.

Andrea, I'm so glad you finally found your dream saddle! I'd consider buying one of the watersheds from you if you have it repaired.

kgorrell, this goes to show it really is trial and error. It can be a really expensive quest, too. There's not much you can do, but some saddles makers do let you return within a few hundred miles, so try some of those.

Wouldn't it be great if we could start a lending library for saddles? I have a Terry Zero I'd be willing to lend out if someone's thinking of trying one. Its leather is a little worn even though it only has <500 miles on it, so I don't think I should sell it.

[redrhodie]

Wouldn't it be great if we could start a lending library for saddles? I have a Terry Zero I'd be willing to lend out if someone's thinking of trying one. Its leather is a little worn even though it only has <500 miles on it, so I don't think I should sell it.

On second thought, that wouldn't work. Once someone found a saddle they liked, they'd never want to part with it. Also, Terry is one of those companies that lets you return saddles within a certain time frame. I just kept thinking this one was okay until it was too late. If anyone wants it, you can send me a pm. It's just sitting here. It's metallic pearl. Just pay shipping.