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    Quote Originally Posted by Jolt View Post
    I wish I (or anyone else for that matter) knew how we could fix this.
    NOOOOOOOO I get enough defeatism at home, I will not listen to "incremental change doesn't work" here!!!

    None of us acting alone can "fix it," obviously, but each of us collectively can add our personal flakes to the snowball of change.

    You grow your own or buy from a local sustainable farmer whenever you can. Every new customer puts a little fillip into the economy of scale. You be very careful about reading the labels on stuff that you don't get directly from the person who grew it. You recommend The Omnivore's Dilemma and Animal, Vegetable, Miracle to everyone you know (and probably In Defense of Food, also, though I haven't read that one yet). You support your local bike co-op with money, time, advocacy, or cast-off parts. You do whatever advocacy you have the energy for. You set a good example for the people around you. Your "random acts of kindness" are centered around health and accessibility issues - cleaning just one pile of gravel off a local bike lane, f'r instance. You start a child care/workout co-op with your neighbors.

    Myself, I'm like whatever my comfort level, I try to take it up just one more notch. Not so it hurts - just enough that I know I'm working on it. That's how change happens. We've got to believe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OakLeaf View Post
    NOOOOOOOO I get enough defeatism at home, I will not listen to "incremental change doesn't work" here!!!

    None of us acting alone can "fix it," obviously, but each of us collectively can add our personal flakes to the snowball of change.

    You grow your own or buy from a local sustainable farmer whenever you can. Every new customer puts a little fillip into the economy of scale. You be very careful about reading the labels on stuff that you don't get directly from the person who grew it. You recommend The Omnivore's Dilemma and Animal, Vegetable, Miracle to everyone you know (and probably In Defense of Food, also, though I haven't read that one yet). You support your local bike co-op with money, time, advocacy, or cast-off parts. You do whatever advocacy you have the energy for. You set a good example for the people around you. Your "random acts of kindness" are centered around health and accessibility issues - cleaning just one pile of gravel off a local bike lane, f'r instance. You start a child care/workout co-op with your neighbors.

    Myself, I'm like whatever my comfort level, I try to take it up just one more notch. Not so it hurts - just enough that I know I'm working on it. That's how change happens. We've got to believe.

    - Oak, always in the minority school of thought that despair (Tristitia) is one of the Seven Deadly Sins...
    You're right that we should each do what we can and set a good example, and that will help to a point...it's just that a LOT of people need a kick in the pants and there are a lot of factors (like the way towns are designed and the fact that some areas are just unsafe) that it's hard to do much about on that grassroots level (unless I'm missing something)--seems like those are the kinds of things where the damage is already done. The culture needs to change, and that will only happen if a larger number of people make an effort.
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    I'm renting a house that already has it's own rhubarb and raspberries. I'm going to add squash, lettuce, and other veggies to the garden this year.

    Jolt, think of it as doing what's right for you. I didn't make all these changes overnight. I started making them last summer. I still have more changes to make, but I'm already noticing hugely important benefits. One thing I've noticed about avoiding high fructose corn syrup is that I no longer have an insatiable "appetite." I can actually eat my meal and feel satisfied. I like the small and often approach as well. I like to have a bunch of things for breakfast: tea, yogurt with fruit, a slice of toast with jam, and an egg or cereal. When I have time, I spread the meal out over the course of a couple hours. I also eat serving sizes. If I open a can of soup (typically two serving sizes), I put half of it in another bowl in the fridge for later.

    Start out with small, easy changes. The soup thing was one of my first changes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OakLeaf View Post
    You grow your own or buy from a local sustainable farmer whenever you can. Every new customer puts a little fillip into the economy of scale. You be very careful about reading the labels on stuff that you don't get directly from the person who grew it. You recommend The Omnivore's Dilemma and Animal, Vegetable, Miracle to everyone you know (and probably In Defense of Food, also, though I haven't read that one yet). You support your local bike co-op with money, time, advocacy, or cast-off parts. You do whatever advocacy you have the energy for. You set a good example for the people around you.
    You all simply must read Michael Pollan's latest: In Defense of Food. He talks about these very issues and offers some practical advice that sounds very much like what Oakleaf said. His basic premise is this: "Eat food. Not too much. Mostly plants."

    That first point--"Eat food"--sounds obvious until you start to think about how much of the crap sold at most grocery stores isn't really food, but some chemically enhanced food-like substance (or as they call it in Skinny B**ch, a "sh*tstorm of chemicals"). Pollan also talks about trying to buy locally produced food, about how we got where we are now, and ideas for moving toward a better place--foodwise, environmentally, culturally.

    Plus, Pollan is such a wonderful writer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bad JuJu View Post
    You all simply must read Michael Pollan's latest: In Defense of Food. He talks about these very issues and offers some practical advice that sounds very much like what Oakleaf said. His basic premise is this: "Eat food. Not too much. Mostly plants."
    That is definitely on my list of books I'd like to read this summer! I looked for it in the library the other day but somebody else had it checked out.
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    I have a hell of a time getting good fruit and veggies at a good price here in southern CT. I live in a low income area and the store shelves are literally stocked with things called, "grape drink" and the lot. Fruits and veggies are woefully expensive here and I don't have room for a garden Fortunately I'm moving

    Does anyone else get sick from sugar substitutes like Equal, Spenda, etc? They give me a horrible stomach ache. I can only eat regular sugar.

    One of the reasons female runners are very prone to injuries is in part that a lack of fat in the diet along with intense running lowers your body fat %. Once it gets too low you can stop menstruating and that in combination with an inadequate diet makes healing less efficient. I work a lot with college athletes and spend a lot of time trying to educate them on proper diet for their activity level. It's pulling teeth though.. everyone wants to be skinny as a twig.

 

 

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