We have a similar thing going on and I was just thinking of posting about it.
We have lived in this apartment for 5 years (month to month). I'm starting to hear things about the landlord selling the place and the new owner want to make these into condos. We have a small real estate boom going on here (due to oil and gas drilling) amid all the housing crisis in the rest of the country.
There was a surveying crew here this week. I asked them what they were doing and they were surveying and measuring it for condos, they said.
My landlord ok an ok guy (not great, but ok). A fellow tenant we are friends with has been doing carpeting and flooring work in the landlords house and the landlord has not said anything about the sale of the apt buildings. There are a couple of elderly ladies here that have lived in the complex for 20+ years.
I'm not sure what people look for in condos. These apts are in ok to mediocre condition. Most are <1000sq ft. They all need new windows and doors. The windows are single pane and let the cold in. Heat had been included in the rent, so they all heat off one or two boilers. They also share water heaters. Can condos do that? None of them have washers and dryers in them, they have to use a common room of them.
There are not many apartments for rent in this town now, especially for renters with 2 cats. I hate to move out of this neighborhood, we are friends with many folks here in the complex and in some of the houses nearby. This is walking distance to many things for us also.
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It sounds like that is what's happening based on all your info. There may be laws that govern if/how/when tenants can be removed for condo conversion. It's worth checking into. At the very least, you should be entitled to some relocation...but you say you are month-to-month, so without a longer lease, those rules might not apply. Still worth finding out, though.
I'm a landlord and a renter (long story). I think I'm a pretty good landlord, and I know I'm a good tenant, probably because I'm also a landlord (and vice-versa). I am looking forward to purchasing the condo I've reserved so that I can not be a tenant anymore, however. I'm finding it hard to make this apartment a real home for me, since I can't do what I want with it. It's also expensive, and my condo will be alot less.
after being evicted twice in two years, we decided never again and bought our first house. The first eviction was without cause (the land lady decided that the house I was living in was finally nice enough for her own daughter after i fixed it up) and with a 2 week old baby we had to find another place to live. I'd lived there for 3 years and had never been even a day late with the rent.
the second time was due to my husband's less than stellar reaction to the landlord the day that he went into the small building which we used as storage and laundry room and painted the inside of it without covering our things. He also re-hooked up the washing machine backwards so that we were washing our baby's diapers in COLD water and couldn't figure out why he was getting such nasty rashes.
-happy homeowner.
(Caveat, all my information is based on California law, but the UBC applies to everyone so I am fairly confident in making generalizations.) Condos can't share water heaters, boilers, etc. so condo conversion will often involve a substantial amount of construction - new plumbing and gas lines, for example. Depending on how old the apartments are, the construction can be substantial - taking the units down to the studs to upgrade for revisions to the building codes including firewalls (new drywall), new windows, doors, roofs and exterior siding. From what you've described, these units simply couldn't be sold as condos in the condition they're in. They don't meet code.
I would not expect that anyone could live in the units while conversion is going on. If your lease is month to month, I would not be surprised if the new owner terminates the lease. Sorry.![]()
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I did say only "typical" landlords are evil or stupid. I am always open to the possibility that there exists, in theory, a landlord who is not typical. Or that the earth is actually flat.
Seriously...I know people whom I believe to be basically decent people, who are landlords. However, I personally have never had a landlord who fell into that category.
Thanks for the thoughts & feedback. I guess we'll probably cooperate and do what we can to help her, I just really hate this situation. I've heard horror stories about terrible tenants and I just want to scream, "We're good tenants!" We pay on time, we don't destroy the place with unruly pets, parties, drug habits, or negligence. Why can't anyone appreciate that?
Many people can appreciate it. Just not the ones you are dealing with, apparently. It is too bad that, somehow, over the years you have been associated with so many bad landlords.
And, having been a renter for years upon years, as well as also being involved with property management, I can say that as a residential tenant, I have never had a landlord I would call evil or stupid. Not saying there aren't plenty out there or that I don't know of any, I just haven't personally had one. I'm sorry that you have. So, in my experience, the typical landlord is neither evil nor stupid.
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I had the greatest landlord ever when I lived in England. I miss him.
Now I rent from a large company that is terrible. Last year our rent went up by 48% yet when I put in a repair order to get the leaky taps fixed the repair guy argued with me and said they're supposed to leak. When I put in a repair order because our toilet wouldn't flush I got a letter in the mailbox a month later informing me that it was fixed. No one had come to fix it. I guess they hoped I would just believe the letter. At least we had heat this winter. The first winter we lived here I submitted a repair order in October about the heating and it didn't get fixed until the following April. We spent most of that winter huddled under blankets with one electric heater cranked up. Most of our neighbours have moved to Saskatchewan. I don't know how much longer we can stay here either.
Housing prices tripled and quadrupled in the last couple of years. It's at the point where over 50% of the homeless people in the city have full time jobs. We need to get significantly better paying jobs, pray for a bust, or leave. I've applied to go back to university so right now we're waiting to hear about that before doing anything.