Quote Originally Posted by Tuckervill View Post
I've been seriously depressed and suicidal, and so I understand completely how it feels not to be able to function. I didn't make a lifestyle out of it. Don't get sucked in.

Karen
Karen, was there ever a point where it was a choice? I think by getting help (or making help a priority) that is a way of wanting to get better. I'm stubborn and those times I've had setbacks either medically or whatever I get more and more insistent that I've got to beat whatever's going on. Giving up is never an option so I have trouble understanding when that happens.

No...I hope no getting sucked in. We're pretty well grounded here and I've got a lot going on in my own life. I know she needs far more help than I can give but the most important thing is she has to want it (the help, that is) and until that happens, there is nothing that can be done. I can help her want it, maybe, but I can't fix it.

We used to have a lot of fun and we did a LOT of stuff. We trekked around Canada when we were 18, we went to lots and lots of concerts in L.A., etc. DH and I still do a lot and I've talked to my friend about going to various places. She sounds interested. Last night we were laughing about silly things that happened when we were young. She's lost both her parents, which is so sad. I don't know the progression of what happened when because we're still catching up but I'm learning that I can ask her pretty much anything.

I guess my feeling is too, that if insurance won't pay for something necessary (like a therapist or tools to quit smoking) then her sister needs to pay for it. Maybe her sister is tired of that and maybe there is history there too but if something has to be done, it should get done. But then again her sister is providing a house, food, utilities....

grrrrrr. Yup, the girl is definitely going for a walk. Definitely. Walks are cheap.